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canpakes wrote:
Sat May 24, 2025 4:27 am
Gunnar wrote:
Sat May 24, 2025 4:18 am
That link didn't work for me.
Let me know if this direct X link does the trick -

https://x.com/Acyn/status/1785493527775826422
That worked. And I agree that what Trump said just didn't sound at all coherent.
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Gunnar wrote:
Sat May 24, 2025 4:34 am
canpakes wrote:
Sat May 24, 2025 4:27 am
Let me know if this direct X link does the trick -

https://x.com/Acyn/status/1785493527775826422
That worked. And I agree that what Trump said just didn't sound at all coherent.
Actually, putting context into what Molek's, or what ever his name is, post, it is perfectly coherent. Molek tried to assert that this statement, given only a portion of it was said "a month ago," implying Trump was saying Biden, who is no longer president needs to do something different.

Gunnar there is a difference between Biden's cognitive decline, and Trump's rambling and ranting. If you want to make an argument Trump rants, fine I'll agree he does. There are times I have to say to myself "okay shut up." You made your point. But if we are going to be honest with each other, we need to be just that. Biden clearly had and has some sort of clear dementia. You and I are old enough to know this having friends and family that have gone through this.

Gunnar we had two choices, it is not like we had twenty folks to pick from, and Trump will do plenty of stupid things that you can rightly criticize him for, just like Biden and every other president. But we can give credit where credit is due also. In my view as a conservative Christian Independent, he supports many things I support. While I do not know your political affiliation or world view, I am guessing it was the same for you with Biden. So I get that. But again, if we are being honest here, trying to defend Biden having a clear cognitive decline, by saying Trump is in that same camp is not an honest assessment. Trump is a tireless worker and go getter, even if you hate his policies, he is hardly in decline.

It is like when you wrote a while back that Trump did not promote a tax break to those making 15K or less a year. You did not think it out, Gunner. While it is true he did not change the percentage, he did not need to in that the standard deduction is 15K (single, 22k+ head of house, almost 30k married jointly), which is now, according to the bill 16K+ single, and if they have children even more deductions....so depending on how they file, either short form, or long form with deductions they can either break even or get monies back. Then add welfare, food stamps, EBT, section 8, or whatever federal or state aid is available these days, they are not paying federal income tax.

Now with that in mind go back and look at the article you pasted.

As Trump rants I did here, sorry.
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Markk speaking of Trump:
...In my view as a conservative Christian Independent, he supports many things I support...
That is the scariest thing I have read in a while. How unfortunate for the world.
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Markk wrote:
Sat May 24, 2025 3:10 pm
Now with that in mind go back and look at the article you pasted.

As Trump rants I did here, sorry.
To which specific article are you referring?
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Marcus wrote:
Sat May 24, 2025 4:12 pm
Markk speaking of Trump:
...In my view as a conservative Christian Independent, he supports many things I support...
That is the scariest thing I have read in a while. How unfortunate for the world.
I agree. A seriously self-damaging admission, as far as I'm concerned. "Trump is a tireless worker and go getter. . .?!" Don't make me laugh! More accurately he is a tirelessly, self-serving scam artist and a documented, convicted felon, determined to enrich and benefit himself and his ultra rich donors and friends beyond limit. That acceptance of a bribe of a 400 million dollar luxury jet from Qatar alone, that won't even be ready for official use as Air Force One without more than a billion dollars worth of retro-fitting, and not until after his term of office is over, and which he will take with him for his own use when he leaves office is more than sufficient to establish his unconscionable scam artist nature. And don't forget the more than $141,000,000 alone that his golf trips have already cost the American taxpayers!

ETA: To be clear, I don't condemn him just for being a conservative Christian Independent, but I contend that there is nothing either conservative or Christian about being a MAGA Trump supporter!
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Gunnar wrote:
Sat May 24, 2025 4:19 pm
Markk wrote:
Sat May 24, 2025 3:10 pm
Now with that in mind go back and look at the article you pasted.

As Trump rants I did here, sorry.
To which specific article are you referring?
The one you pasted from. You just pasted a link, I checked it out in full context. I didn't say anything at the time in that it just doesn't matter.

viewtopic.php?f=7&t=159871&p=2894674&hi ... s#p2894674
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Markk wrote:
Fri May 23, 2025 5:09 pm
honorentheos wrote:
Fri May 23, 2025 4:44 pm
It blows my mind that we just had the most vicious budget legislation passed by the House and people want to talk about Biden still.
I am reading the bill, and trying to understand it. So far, there is some stuff so far I don't like, but some good stuff also. I am not sure how we are going to pay for it, like every other budget bill in my adult caring lifetime.

Lets see what the senate does with it and then we can talk away.

by the way, good to see you back here.
Thanks.

There's a new thread on the bill if you are interested.
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Marcus wrote:
Sat May 24, 2025 4:12 pm
Markk speaking of Trump:
...In my view as a conservative Christian Independent, he supports many things I support...
That is the scariest thing I have read in a while. How unfortunate for the world.
Oh. In that case, I'd invite Markk to have a little stroll through the thread I created regarding Christianity and the current administration.

Violating Christian principles and commandments

viewtopic.php?f=7&t=159859
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Markk wrote:
Sat May 24, 2025 7:53 pm
Gunnar wrote:
Sat May 24, 2025 4:19 pm
To which specific article are you referring?
The one you pasted from. You just pasted a link, I checked it out in full context. I didn't say anything at the time in that it just doesn't matter.

viewtopic.php?f=7&t=159871&p=2894674&hi ... s#p2894674
:?: Okay, I looked at it again. What did you expect me to see that would alter the main point of my post?
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Gunnar wrote:
Sat May 24, 2025 9:32 pm
Markk wrote:
Sat May 24, 2025 7:53 pm
The one you pasted from. You just pasted a link, I checked it out in full context. I didn't say anything at the time in that it just doesn't matter.

viewtopic.php?f=7&t=159871&p=2894674&hi ... s#p2894674
:?: Okay, I looked at it again. What did you expect me to see that would alter the main point of my post?
I didn't expect anything Gunnar. I realized you did not understand the tax code or clicked on any of the hyperlinks in your link. Which is why I did not saying anything at the time. If you did you would have seen that Trump proposed to lower the tax rates for every class, except for the two that basically don't pay taxes anyways because of standard deductions. I understood you were just cutting and pasting stuff without understanding what you were pasting.
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