(Off topic, but I don't want to dig up the thread... any response regarding the identity of Brown?)
Of course Helorum is Matthew Brown. He’s never really tried to hide the fact. He and Dan Vogel have engaged in numerous discussions/threads on the FAIR/MAD board over the years, and it’s all but acknowledged that Helorum/Matt Brown are one and the same. Dan quotes Matt from his books, then Helorum defends, then Dan quotes again, etc. It’s not a secret.
Good God! The LDS church is NOTHING like the FLDS in terms of abuse!
At least the LDS church attempts to be charitable (although not as much as I'd like to see). When was the last time the FLDS did anything that wasn't absolutely self-serving?
Gimme a break! I read this board frequently (although I comment rarely) and I’ve read at least ten threads here in the past few weeks where many of the regular posters are going on and on about how there is little or no difference between the FLDS and the LDS.
And the LDS don’t do any charitable stuff for nothing! You need to wake up. Everything they do is calculated to get them in the door somewhere so they can start gathering up new recruits into their revenue-generating cult.
And then what? Once we'd rid the world of the evils of Mormonism, do we now turn on the whole of Christianity? Or should we try and weed out those horrible, brainwashed Muslims next? Or should we just focus on the smaller "weird" churches? JW's and Scientology?
Well, I think we need to take these things one at a time.
My point is that there has finally been a precedent set for doing this sort of thing. Texas has shown the way. And I can’t really see any difference between gathering up FLDS kids in Texas for the purpose of reprogramming them than gathering LDS kids in Texas for the same purpose. Both systems are demonstrably injurious to the body politic. No one but the TBMs here would argue against that point. And up until now no one has been bold enough or resolute enough to actually do something about it. It took a woman judge in Texas to demonstrate how you can deal with these kinds of problems in the 21st century.
Guys, I don't believe that Wheat is for real. I think he's trying to push an extreme view on purpose to try to make some kind of point against the critics, by going way over the top, as it were.
Don't feed the trolls.
What are you talking about?
OK, smart guy, you tell me why we shouldn’t do the same thing with LDS kids that Texas is doing with FLDS kids? And make sure you keep your explanation consistent with your other opinions about the dangers of Mormonism, or we’ll pronounce you a hypocrite.
The fact is that Texas has demonstrated that we don’t need any specific “crimes” in order to undertake a massive reprogramming project of this nature. As unlikely as most of us might have seen such a development, don’t you think it’s important – even
imperative – that we seize the opportunity that has now presented itself?
If we can successfully remove FLDS children from their parents in Texas, there is no doubt in my mind that we can successfully remove LDS children as well, and the sooner we get to it, the better. Before they really do put one of their cult androids in the Oval office!