Time for periodic apologies yet again

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Coggins7 wrote:Thank you to those who accepted the apology in good faith, as it was given.

(*See previously cited reference to alcoholism)
To those who do not seem able to do this...

OOH MEMEMEE!!!! Pick me !!
Well, you know, nothing to see here.


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Jason Bourne wrote:
Mercury wrote:
Coggins7 wrote:Thank you to those who accepted the apology in good faith, as it was given.

To those who do not seem able to do this...

Well, you know, nothing to see here.


you behave like a ten year old


Uh Merc.....who is the one posting booze adds in order to taunt. You are acting like a 6 year old. Come on man.


Jason, I never said I was not juvenile. Do I put on a pretense as if I am some deity of knowledge with which I am covenanted to act as an impartial adult?

I expect same treatment in kind whenever I shift up or down on the age scale.
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Jason Bourne wrote:Well I am willing to give him some slack. But even as a questioning Mormon I am commanded to forgive everyone...period so I am happy to do so. I am not perfect at that but I try hard. I think it is a good practice.



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I'm "baiting" you by reminding of basic LDS teachings that it's necessary to abandon the sin to truly repent???



You've abandoned the Gospel of Jesus Christ altogether, and hence, perhaps are in no position to pontificate on my foibles.



Ok, I'm an evil apostate.

Aside from that, have I (and the authorized citations I shared) incorrectly stated LDS doctrine? Does or does not true repentance, under LDS theology, require abandoning the behavior?

Since you understand LDS teachings better than anyone else here, but your own estimation, this should not be a difficult question to answer.

Coggins probably will avoid answering this question, because he knows the answer creates problems for him. Yes, abandoning the behavior is a prerequisite for true repentance under LDS theology. So if Coggins repeats the behavior yet again, and his own post seems to indicate recognition that he will likely do so (time for periodic apology yet again), we will know that his repentance was insincere.
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Well I am willing to give him some slack. But even as a questioning Mormon I am commanded to forgive everyone...period so I am happy to do so. I am not perfect at that but I try hard. I think it is a good practice.


Brigham Young once made some sort of statement about the requirement to forgive does not mean that one should continue association with the individual as if nothing had happened. If I recall correctly, he used snakes as an analogy. I'll try to find it.
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Post by _Jason Bourne »

beastie wrote:
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I'm "baiting" you by reminding of basic LDS teachings that it's necessary to abandon the sin to truly repent???



You've abandoned the Gospel of Jesus Christ altogether, and hence, perhaps are in no position to pontificate on my foibles.



Ok, I'm an evil apostate.

Aside from that, have I (and the authorized citations I shared) incorrectly stated LDS doctrine? Does or does not true repentance, under LDS theology, require abandoning the behavior?

Since you understand LDS teachings better than anyone else here, but your own estimation, this should not be a difficult question to answer.

Coggins probably will avoid answering this question, because he knows the answer creates problems for him. Yes, abandoning the behavior is a prerequisite for true repentance under LDS theology. So if Coggins repeats the behavior yet again, and his own post seems to indicate recognition that he will likely do so (time for periodic apology yet again), we will know that his repentance was insincere.


Forsaking the sin is part of the repentance process. But one may be in the process and stumble and back slide for quite some time before the total abandonment of the sin occurs. They are still repenting. I call it directional repentance. What direction is the penitent headed in.
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Moniker wrote:I'm not impressed by apologies from those that don't change their behavior. I've seen a few of these apology threads from Coggins.

Hollow.

At least it's something.

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Post by _ajax18 »

You pretend to be the expert on Mormonism, but seem not to grasp a very basic teaching of Mormonism regarding repentance and forgiveness - it only works if you cease the offensive behavior. Otherwise, all your past acts return upon your head.


Any expert in Mormonism realizes that there are as many opinions on doctrine as there are members. As far as I'm concerned, making an effort to repent and falling again is better than not making an effort at all.
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Post by _Coggins7 »

Any expert in Mormonism realizes that there are as many opinions on doctrine as there are members



Is fantasy really all that much more comforting than reality?

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Post by _Trevor »

Coggins7 wrote:Is fantasy really all that much more comforting than reality?

Try to enjoy the daylight...


You tell us. You're the expert, as your entire religious belief system is a fantasy.
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