Split: Israel's judgement

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Quantum1982 wrote:
Sun Apr 12, 2026 7:41 pm
The Bible says that unrepentent lgbtq people go to hell when they die.
It is the Christian responsibility to get them delivered.
Get them delivered where?
Get them delivered how?

Please explain what you are trying to say.
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"Delivered" means that they are cured of their immoral lifestyle. They might still have the tendencies but they don't act on it. They instead either get married to the opposite sex or they stay celibate.

They then dedicate their lives to following Jesus Christ.
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Quantum1982 wrote:
Mon Apr 13, 2026 6:55 am
"Delivered" means that they are cured of their immoral lifestyle. They might still have the tendencies but they don't act on it. They instead either get married to the opposite sex or they stay celibate.

They then dedicate their lives to following Jesus Christ.
That sounds culty. What church do you attend?
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I am a Pentacostal.
I attend the Redeemed Christian Church Of God in Scotland.
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Quantum1982 wrote:
Mon Apr 13, 2026 8:10 am
I am a Pentacostal.
I attend the Redeemed Christian Church Of God in Scotland.
You need to put more money in, it’s going bust. It would appear your organisation has been investigated for…let’s call it…financial irregularities. Unauthorised payments to pastors etc. what does your Bible say about that kind of thing?
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Quantum1982 wrote:
Sun Apr 12, 2026 7:41 pm
The Bible says that unrepentent lgbtq people go to hell when they die.
It does? Where?
Premise 1. Eyewitness testimony is notoriously unreliable.
Premise 2. The best evidence for the Book of Mormon is eyewitness testimony.
Conclusion. Therefore, the best evidence for the Book of Mormon is notoriously unreliable.
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Revelation 22:14

14 “Blessed are those who wash their robes, that they may have the right to the tree of life and may go through the gates into the city. 15 Outside are the dogs, those who practice magic arts, the sexually immoral, the murderers, the idolaters and everyone who loves and practices falsehood.
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Quantum1982 wrote:
Mon Apr 13, 2026 8:10 am
I am a Pentacostal.
I attend the Redeemed Christian Church Of God in Scotland.
Interesting! Are you 🇳🇬 or 🇳🇬 by descent?
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Quantum1982 wrote:
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Revelation 22:14

14 “Blessed are those who wash their robes, that they may have the right to the tree of life and may go through the gates into the city. 15 Outside are the dogs, those who practice magic arts, the sexually immoral, the murderers, the idolaters and everyone who loves and practices falsehood.
That doesn’t say “unrepentent lgbtq people go to hell when they die.” Which is a really oversimplified—and frankly misleading—claim, that you cannot support.

First, the Bible doesn’t actually say “gay people go to hell.” That exact idea isn’t stated anywhere. What is in the text are a handful of disputed passages, written in ancient languages, in very different cultural contexts, that scholars have been debating for centuries. Translating those into a blanket statement about modern LGBTQ+ people is a huge leap.

Second, if someone wants to argue that any sin sends people to hell, then they have to apply that standard consistently. The Bible lists all kinds of things—greed, divorce, dishonesty, arrogance—right alongside sexual behavior. Singling out gay people while ignoring everything else is selective and hypocritical.

Third, the core message of Christianity, according to Jesus, is about love, compassion, and humility—not condemning entire groups of people. So using religion as a weapon against others says more about the person making the claim (you) than it does about the Bible.

If you’re going to make a serious theological argument, it needs nuance, context, and consistency—not a one-line judgment. Please put some more thought and research into what you’re saying and stop splattering the board with obnoxious claptrap.
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Quantum1982 wrote:
Mon Apr 13, 2026 11:05 am
Revelation 22:14

14 “Blessed are those who wash their robes, that they may have the right to the tree of life and may go through the gates into the city. 15 Outside are the dogs, those who practice magic arts, the sexually immoral, the murderers, the idolaters and everyone who loves and practices falsehood.
So the liars go with them, right?
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