'The LDS Church tracks about 6,500 anti-LDS Web sites'

[_Jason Bourne]

It has always been that way. Remember the rich man who was told to sell all he had and follow Christ?

Sure. It was when I was a missionary. I always had more success in poorer and rural areas then in nice suburbs. I hated to tract in nice neighborhoods.

Which brings us back to Recommend Ridge, million dollar homes,

I have never heard of such a place.

and GA's being paid while the rest of us are required to volunteer.

I don't mind GAs being paid. As long as it is reasonable. The devor all their time to what they do. In fact I think we need a paid clergy in the Church. Full time trained bishops and SPs would go a long way to making the Church better I think ad it would sure be a lot stress on the leaders and their families.

Perhaps they haven't read their Bibles lately. It does seem to be a book out of fashion.

Oh come now.

[_rcrocket]

You may have missed my first question concerning this.... does the church gather only untrue "anti" material; that which is on non-faith promoting sites that is true?

The Church is not very discriminating in its collections.

Also, could you provide the source for Nibley's work elaborting on this policy.

I'm struggling with this one. I believe it was Consecreted Life but I can't find it in my library to provide you a page cite. This topic is referenced in Nibley, Tinkling Cymbals & Sounding Brass, p. xvi. I work in Church archives and also am familiar with the collection.

I have never heard of this mandate that the church is under Godly directive to archive anti-mormon material and it sounds so odd to me since I have red very little that is untrue.

See reference in an article at http://www.lightplanet.com/Mormons/resp ... ns_EOM.htm.

"very little that is untrue": What does this mean? Compton and van Wagoner frequently cite only to anti-Mormon newspapers as sources for their conclusions about Nauvoo-era polygamy. There is nobody to contradict the claim that Joseph Smith was reputed to have said, related through hearsay sources in anti-Mormon newspapers, that when he saw a pretty woman he prayed for grace. So, I guess it must be "true."

They don't care too much about collaboration. Bagley's chief source for many of his conclusions about the Mountain Meadows Massacre are two anonymous sources. (in Church archives, I might add). "Truth" is certainly an elusive concept to anti-Mormon writers. I have chased down many many footnotes to original sources in Quinn and Bagley's work Often, they are wrong or overstated.

Also, the information I discovered on the FAIR board was every bit as damaging as what one would find on RFM so, is it the site that determines what is or is not considered "anti"? Or the person sharing the information? Or whether the information is faith promoting or not regardless of whether it is true?

How can I answer this question Is the question whether the Church archives FAIR material? I doubt it. In a prior post I pointed out that the Church is ten-years behind the technology curve.

P

[_capt jack]

I think Jason is right. I'd say most missionaries spend most of their time with the poor. Yet Shades has a point as well. I always like to point out that the first language that the Church used to proselyte in South America was not Spanish nor Portuguese, but German. I guess they knew where the money was, or more importantly where it wasn't, and might create a very dangerous and unfavorable osmotic shift of resources during a tender time for the upstart Church.

The reason they started teaching in German was because German members who had fled to South America from post WWI Germany wrote and asked for support. The Germans in South America were far from wealthy; in fact, most were dirt poor.

Ah. The poster who uses as his handle a euphemism for masturbation. How stunningly appropriate for this board.

P

We've had this discussion before; you're the only one who thinks Capt Jack=masturbation. Why is is that religious types are so hung up on masturbation that they see it everywhere?

Looking back on my post, I do find something stunningly inappropriate: defending the LDS institution against a false impression left, in good faith, by an earlier poster. I should've let it stand, if all I'm going to get out of it is snarked by a "capt jack" obsessed believer.

[_rcrocket]

Well, I'm in good company with Rudy Guilliani who attacked Hillary Clinton's use of the song "Captain Jack" in her campaign stops.

But, Captain Jack is also a name for weed, so carry on my friend. You're in welcome company here.

P

[_Mercury]

I don't mind GAs being paid. As long as it is reasonable.

What constitutes reasonable to you? Keep in mind that most of these bastards have sizeable financial worth, IE they do not need to get paid.

[_truth dancer]

Hi Plutarch...

Thanks for your response.

I believe your assertion that the church is keeping track of websites (and people) that may be less than faith promoting.

But you seem to be the only member I have ever "known" to share or confirm this information. Folks on FAIR either do not know this information or are being less than forthright about it.

So... I'm wondering if there is anything you can share about this topic that may be a little more substantial than your statement that it is happening.

I understand your opinion is that the tracking of less than faith promoting information and people is mandated by scripture but could you provide anything that would be considered evidence that this is indeed the official church position?

Please do not be offended by this... as I said I totally believe you.

Thanks,

~dancer~

[_truth dancer]

Jason,

Just curious, but are you aware that the church tracks less than faith promoting sites? Have you ever encountered the SCMC or representatives thereof?

~dancer~

[_capt jack]

Well, I'm in good company with Rudy Guilliani who attacked Hillary Clinton's use of the song "Captain Jack" in her campaign stops.

But, Captain Jack is also a name for weed, so carry on my friend. You're in welcome company here.

P

Giuliani said she was advocating masturbation and drug use because both are mentioned in the Billy Joel song. But Rudy was made to look like a jerk because, in addition to the above, the song also talked about English clothes, dad's drowning in swimming pools, playing albums, and meeting girlfriends is parking lots. Was she advocating all these things as well?

[_harmony]

Well, I'm in good company with Rudy Guilliani who attacked Hillary Clinton's use of the song "Captain Jack" in her campaign stops.

But, Captain Jack is also a name for weed, so carry on my friend. You're in welcome company here.

P

Captain Jack is also the name of Johnny Depp's character in Pirates of the Caribbean. So what?

[_rcrocket]

Well, I'm in good company with Rudy Guilliani who attacked Hillary Clinton's use of the song "Captain Jack" in her campaign stops.

But, Captain Jack is also a name for weed, so carry on my friend. You're in welcome company here.

P

Captain Jack is also the name of Johnny Depp's character in Pirates of the Caribbean. So what?

Your knowledge of pop culture is deep.