The anger of exmos...

[_wenglund]

I've never understood the compulsion among some Mormons to deny the validity of other people's feelings.

Since validity has to do with logical soundness, and since emotions are not a matter of logic, then I am not sure it is possible to validate or invalidate emotions. Is it?

Whatever the case, what I have found useful is not to focus some much on the anger, itself (except perhaps as an external indicator of an internal state), but focus instead on what may be cognitively driving the anger, and determine whether those cognitions work in one's favor and the favor of all parties concerned, or not.

By focusing on the driving force behind one's anger, and assessing it in terms of functionality or utility, and making whatever changes may be warranted, one may help avoid doing or saying things that one may latter regret. Wouldn't that be nice? ;-)

So, as long as the question of this thread is addressed in that manner (i.e. in terms of functionality of the cognitions driving the anger), that would be a "good" thing, right?

Thanks, -Wade Englund-

[_Trevor]

Since validity has to do with logical soundness, and since emotions are not a matter of logic, then I am not sure it is possible to validate or invalidate emotions. Is it?

This prompts me to ask the question: is it possible to validate the Spirit? Or is the Spirit, because of its emotional component, irrational? So one could make a case for it being impossible to validate or invalidate the Spirit, true? Not?

[_sunstoned]

But, I am one of the very very very few true believers on this Board, and I am routinely treated spitefully and even threatened at times. I have received threats that my employer will be informed of my views, and in the case of Mr. Scratch a few days ago, my stake president. Is it so hard to see that boorish behavior and ill manners are as prevalent here, and perhaps much more so, than the board you all obsess over?

rcrocket

Sorry to hear this Bob, but ya know you were warned about posting on the internet using your real name.

[_Polygamy Porter]

Also, why don't you ask juliann why she's so angry and bitter despite being in the only true Church which offers all this incredible happiness? Why attack and mock other people she believes to be her brothers and sisters?

I'll give you a hint: it has nothing to do with having a testimony or lacking one.

I guess it is really impossible to see that for every mean spirited and spiteful Juliann on your board of obsession, there are 20 counterparts here, of which you are one.

Really? I call everyone whose opinion on the Church differs from mine an arrogant fool who only wants to inflame? Care to provide a reference?

Well, it seems to me that you post often in the same style as Pahoran but don't have his depth of knowledge of Church doctrine and history. Of course, I could be wrong and if so, I apologize.

But, I am one of the very very very few true believers on this Board, and I am routinely treated spitefully and even threatened at times. I have received threats that my employer will be informed of my views, and in the case of Mr. Scratch a few days ago, my stake president. Is it so hard to see that boorish behavior and ill manners are as prevalent here, and perhaps much more so, than the board you all obsess over?

rcrocket

Hate to point this out to you, but you, Mr. Mormon Bishop, are expected to behave in manner nearly opposite of your actions on this public board.

Had you not told us about your pretend office in your cult, we would not hold you to this standard and you'd be free to act, well, like you have been.

Additionally, your Stake Prez is your senior and is privy to your personal actions.

[_Jersey Girl]

Crock,

I assume this was a list of your "mean spirited and spiteful" comparisons from this board?

Pokatator
Zoidberg
Roll-over for anything
Ms. Scratch
Kevin Graham
Coggins
Guy Sajer
Infymus
PP
VegasBlight
Trixie
Blixa
Harmony
Some Schmo
Ray A
GIMR
Capt Jack
James Muir
That Moron, James Bond
marg
why me = 21

I've posted here since this board began and on it's very first version. While I don't follow the postings of all posters, I'd like to see some evidence of "mean and spiteful" for any of those whose screen names I've bolded.

Let's see it. I look forward to your blank reply to my request.

Jersey Girl

[_Blixa]

I didn't really look closely at crockett's list of shame til Jersey Girl bolded my name on it. What the f is going on with calling Mr. Scratch, "Ms. Scratch?"

Yep calling a man a woman---the ultimate insult. Nice bit of misogyny, there, Bishop.

[_Jersey Girl]

I didn't really look closely at crockett's list of shame til Jersey Girl bolded my name on it. What the f is going on with calling Mr. Scratch, "Ms. Scratch?"

Yep calling a man a woman---the ultimate insult. Nice bit of misogyny, there, Bishop.

Misogyny? You think so? It impressed me as PA.

[_Lucretia MacEvil]

I just have to wonder about the folks who are perceiving all this alleged anger. Just goes to show, we will always see what we look for.

I can't say I've ever seen Why Me expressing anger of his own, but he must be brimming over with it deep down if that's the only thing he can see from ex-mormons/critics. And even moreso for this Crockett guy, who doesn't even try to be nice. They and many others seem unable to perceive anger in Mormons, or else they believe it's okay for Mormons to be angry. Is anger really the problem, or is it only anger against the church that's a problem? All the Mormons I know are angry for several reasons all the time, they even get angry at ex-mormons just for being ex-mormons, but that's all "righteous anger." Why should anger at the church be so egregious, per se?

[_why me]

I just have to wonder about the folks who are perceiving all this alleged anger. Just goes to show, we will always see what we look for.

I can't say I've ever seen Why Me expressing anger of his own, but he must be brimming over with it deep down if that's the only thing he can see from ex-mormons/critics.

I have a unique history which I have shared on a thread. I don't get angry about this Mormon thing. And angry exmos don't get me angry either even though they can say some doozies about me. What should I get angry about. I have two beautiful Mormon children and I have a job. My kids are fine and healthy and I gravitate to the catholic faith and to the Mormon faith, with a slant toward catholicism.

I have been inactive for so long that anger would never play a part and this is where many exmos and I differ, and this was brought out to me when I was on the postmorg site. The claim: Why me you were never a TBM and you can't understand our anger was brought out several times when I posted there.

[_rcrocket]

I just have to wonder about the folks who are perceiving all this alleged anger. Just goes to show, we will always see what we look for.

I can't say I've ever seen Why Me expressing anger of his own, but he must be brimming over with it deep down if that's the only thing he can see from ex-mormons/critics. And even moreso for this Crockett guy, who doesn't even try to be nice. They and many others seem unable to perceive anger in Mormons, or else they believe it's okay for Mormons to be angry. Is anger really the problem, or is it only anger against the church that's a problem? All the Mormons I know are angry for several reasons all the time, they even get angry at ex-mormons just for being ex-mormons, but that's all "righteous anger." Why should anger at the church be so egregious, per se?

Untrue on all accounts. I see anger all the time in Mormons who claim to be so and post on the Boards, in particular, MAD. They are wrong and anger is inappropriate and unChristian, and that is one of the reason I think the MAD board is inappropriate.

Moreover, "anger against the church" is not my interest or hobbyhorse. Be angry all you want.

I merely point out that bad manners and malicious behavior is as prevalent on this board as any other, and perhaps more so. It makes you'all as bad as they and worse.

As far as me "who doesn't even try to be nice," I think you'll note from my posts no hint of anger. I confess, instead, to sarcasm and ego-popping comments; lots of leg-pulling; lots of pointing out and mentioning lack of courage among posters here. But, I claim no particular expertise in the subject area of Mormonism. I stand convicted by the Spirit to declare the Word of God, but not to preach here.

I certainly wish all of you on this board the very best, no matter where you are in Mormonism, and I apologize once again for my particular style of writing. I participate to learn new things, and I do once in a while.

rcrocket