James Muir wrote: Benjamin Franklin was a stone witch.
Yeah, but I'm a stone fox.
mms wrote:
So how do I go about identifying or re-identifying the "Spirit"? I suppose the Sunday School answers are relevant here. Pray, read the Standard Works, be more obedient, and listen. Part of me is afraid to do that because I am afraid the answer will be that the church is not true, if I receive an answer at all. As long as I have not drawn concclusions, part of me says, I may still have a testimony. If I go through this process and do not obtain an answer that it is true, I have a problem . . . or do I?
Blixa wrote:James Muir wrote: Benjamin Franklin was a stone witch.
Yeah, but I'm a stone fox.
Inconceivable wrote:I've come to the conclusion that if the Holy Ghost were to testify that Joseph Smith was a Prophet of God, I am still justified to reject this witness based strictly on his morality alone.
If God is willing to break his own rules and give His True Messenger a pass for immorality, I would prefer to hold out a little longer For that Further Light and Knowledge He Promised to Send Me. I hold my covenants Sacred, particularly the ones concerning fidelity.
Wouldn't he at least send someone that had repented of committing the sin next to murder?
thestyleguy wrote:James Muir can you explain more on what a "low watt warm fuzzy" is and who gets them.
mms wrote:So how do I go about identifying or re-identifying the "Spirit"?
Trevor wrote:I just want to point out here that the two statements about criticism made by Mormon leaders that I find most memorable both characterize it as something bad that should not be done. President Hinckley wrote a piece in the Ensign about criticism that seemed to equate it with the sin of pride, and then President Oaks comment that you shouldn't criticize the Brethren, even when they are wrong about something.
It sounds to me like the system must be pretty fragile if such fear of scrutiny and questions exists in its upper ranks.
D&C 121: 43 wrote:Reproving betimes with sharpness, when moved upon by the Holy Ghost; and then showing forth afterwards an increase of love toward him whom thou hast reproved, lest he esteem thee to be his enemy;
James Muir wrote:
One church president was a scripturally proven Son of Perdition. I can prove it.
If early Church witches wrote crap about Joseph Smith it was a smear most likely just to keep the TBMs offbalance and shy like their working the MMMassacre to defile Zion and keep it toppsy turvy from being able to assert itself righteous. These people play chess with people from craddle to grave from behind the chess board and their great pride is that they remain undetected. They act like gods who love to slink into the shadows and effect the drama and take possession of all things. They would keep the Church growing just to farm it out like they still do the Masons and Catholics and they set up America for the shelter. Benjamin Franklin was a stone witch.
The Pilgrim were sincere about Zion. They held that a person had to be spiritually accomplished to take communion. That is advanced understanding before the Book of Mormon ever revealed that commandment two hundred years later. What polluted and defeated the Pilgrim Zion? WITCHES People. Witches. Druids if you prefer. They never write anything down and strive to be invisable these days.