Is it Easier to "Rat" People Out in the LDS Chuch?

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_The Nehor
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Trevor wrote:
liz3564 wrote:So, in the count of total members that they announce at General Conference, are these folks tallied in as part of that membership or not?


I thought it was the case that all people are counted until they reach 120 years from their birthdate, at which point they drop from the membership statistics.


I think that is only the case with less-actives. Deaths are recorded but those that the Church loses contact with drop off after a certain age (MIA, presumed dead).
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Jason Bourne wrote:I do not think they are counted in total membership. Just take the prior year membership number and subtract it from the newest one. Look at the difference. Then compare that to the total convert and child of record baptisms. That number is always higher.


Not always. Look at Shades' write-up.

Subtract the net difference from the converts and child of records and you see some shrinkage. How much is deaths vs. excommunication and removal requests I do not know.


When that net difference is less (far less) than average death rates, I'm not sure what the number actually means (and makes it less likely that the ex-coms are taken off the roles).
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Belial wrote:
James Muir wrote:
Belial wrote:
James Muir wrote:I got dynamics that make devils jaws drop agape and angels at my side constantly protecting. I want friends. I just want them jacked up to where I can relate to them.


As a demon I wish to inform you that your dynamics....whatever that means.....don't even scare loser first-year imps. Delusions of grandeur....look it up.

You might consider pothead circles. They're jacked up to your level.


Point of logic friend. If you do not know what my dynamics are or what that means how can you qualify it or define it delusional? I know that with evil its all slander all day and when its not slander its making accusations between times.

You claim to be a demon however is on its face a mental illness. We all know that you are just joking around, and so we know you are not mentally ill. I give you that. Why cut me no slack jack.


I know what the word dynamic means. I just suspect you don't. I didn't cut you no slack jaw because I have not the slightest idea what you are talking about. I suspect that the mushrooms you are ingesting to learn your deep and solemn thoughts and to improve your excellent dynamics are also improving your command of logic to beyond mortal ability (in one direction or the other).

We would like to welcome you to Hell based on your above statements regarding accusations. You've accused the entirety of the LDS Church of being Druids/Witches/Devil Worshippers (lot of multi-classing there) and we'd like you to know that we'll send a devil over immediately with a "Why should I sell my Soul?" pamphlet immediately.


You should note since you peruse my posts exhaustively that I do not just throw out wild accusations without some merit in scripture and examples of specific behaviors. Whereas the hellians just keep chucking provocations at me to piss me off. I have been around probably longer that most and I know that when people only attack me and never confront the substance of what I say that I am hitting points out of the park that nobody wants to try to field.

Characterizing me and laying snares and provocations is just another way to whine.
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James Muir wrote:Characterizing me and laying snares and provocations is just another way to whine.
Tender baby Mormons and their exes have chucked the masculine gospel of the kingdom of the Father where exactness and honor is demanded, for the LDS Mother Goddess even the trangender of Satan where flattering lovey dovey leadership speaks peace and contentment through Landroo. "OOOOh we looooooove you. Yooou are the beeeeeest. ooooooh (shifting weight to the left) know that weeeeeee knooooooow of your gooooooodnesss and wonderfuuuuuuuul efforts to build up the kingdom. OOOOOOH just continue to dooooooo the beeeeest you can every daaaaaaay."


Sweet Jebus, that is creepy!
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The Nehor wrote:I think that is only the case with less-actives. Deaths are recorded but those that the Church loses contact with drop off after a certain age (MIA, presumed dead).


Ahhh. Makes sense I guess.
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James Muir wrote:You should note since you peruse my posts exhaustively that I do not just throw out wild accusations without some merit in scripture and examples of specific behaviors. Whereas the hellians just keep chucking provocations at me to piss me off. I have been around probably longer that most and I know that when people only attack me and never confront the substance of what I say that I am hitting points out of the park that nobody wants to try to field.


Never assume. I can think of several reasons why no one's confronting you about your absurdities, including not enough time, not enough bandwidth, too tired, don't care enough about you to correct you (my personal favorite... just ask Infymus), haven't seen what you claim, or even agree with you a little bit.

Characterizing me and laying snares and provocations is just another way to whine.


Well, hell, James. He's a demon! What else is he supposed to do? Change water into wine?

Tender baby Mormons and their exes have chucked the masculine gospel of the kingdom of the Father where exactness and honor is demanded, for the LDS Mother Goddess even the trangender of Satan where flattering lovey dovey leadership speaks peace and contentment through Landroo. "OOOOh we looooooove you. Yooou are the beeeeeest. ooooooh (shifting weight to the left) know that weeeeeee knooooooow of your gooooooodnesss and wonderfuuuuuuuul efforts to build up the kingdom. OOOOOOH just continue to dooooooo the beeeeest you can every daaaaaaay."


LDS Mother Goddess? ROTFLMAO Lord have mercy, but you are funny!

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James Muir wrote:You should note since you peruse my posts exhaustively that I do not just throw out wild accusations without some merit in scripture and examples of specific behaviors. Whereas the hellians just keep chucking provocations at me to piss me off. I have been around probably longer that most and I know that when people only attack me and never confront the substance of what I say that I am hitting points out of the park that nobody wants to try to field.

Characterizing me and laying snares and provocations is just another way to whine.
Tender baby Mormons and their exes have chucked the masculine gospel of the kingdom of the Father where exactness and honor is demanded, for the LDS Mother Goddess even the trangender of Satan where flattering lovey dovey leadership speaks peace and contentment through Landroo. "OOOOh we looooooove you. Yooou are the beeeeeest. ooooooh (shifting weight to the left) know that weeeeeee knooooooow of your gooooooodnesss and wonderfuuuuuuuul efforts to build up the kingdom. OOOOOOH just continue to dooooooo the beeeeest you can every daaaaaaay."


Age does not necessarily convey wisdom. Sometimes it just means you soil yourself more.

You have now ticked me off though. Don't talk about my Mom that way please. She isn't transgendered or Satan....nor did Joseph or Jesus or anyone else teach such a thing........well there goes the scriptural merit thing. God doesn't tell me any of the above either.
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Nehor wrote:Age does not necessarily convey wisdom. Sometimes it just means you soil yourself more.


LOL!

I'll have to keep this in my signature-worthy file.

Glad you're back, Nehor!

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The Nehor wrote:
James Muir wrote:I got dynamics that make devils jaws drop agape and angels at my side constantly protecting. I want friends. I just want them jacked up to where I can relate to them.


I suggest MENSA. You remind me of many of it's members.

Not the intellect perse.....more the elitism.


It's dumb for me to say this but I've tried being undumb to no avail. <SDH>

I think that what you see as an elitism, or lack of humility on my part is my fearlessness. Let me us an example from nature to explain. All the animals in the forest are fearful to some extent. What they most fear is fearlessness and that fearlessness can be a man walking through the woods.

When someone stands up amongst men less fearful than his fellows its intimidating. I cannot help but come of this way because I have gone through an extra creation that adds a measure of fearlessness that is lacking in anyone who has not been wrought upon and given a new heart, might, mind and strength. People take skepticism as a token of intelligence. I see it as fearfulness.

The gospel of Jesus Christ is suppose to make you a new species perse. You think in a newness of mind and heart that is like speaking a different language. You no longer share the same definitions because your eyes have been open to a wider view. Your understanding has an extra dimension that was not there before. I say things really very plain and often get back confusion from those that read what to me is about as simple as I can make it. Will the Lord soon send one with more commuication talent ? Its possible.

If we started out dog ugly and spent lots of time trying to improve our looks would it not make sense to go to a Creator to fix our faces rather than practise something like plastic surgery on ourself? You think people would clamour for the expertise of God in advancing their condition. Finding God is such a rarity that you cannot generate mass hysteria to move lots of people that way. It is easier for the viper to strike out in fear and the mole to hide and everyone turn and fight when they feel cornered.

I am showing a new face to the world and it will only be marred. Will anyone see the advancements proven from the expert hand of God? We are here only because God first added to us. It is therefore a very wise course to seek to be added upon more by God. One great test of life is to see who will long for the the Lord to continue his work and who will only do their own works.

Guess I could not remain dumb for an entire page. That's what I see. I might have failed to communicate. Its possible.
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James Muir wrote:It's dumb for me to say this but I've tried being undumb to no avail. <SDH>


Don't sell yourself short, I think you're doing a fantastic job and availing much. Keep trucking away.
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