My TBM GF's latest gem

[_moksha]

Her response, "Welll...there may be a few little things like that, but I've heard that archaeologists actually use the Book of Mormon when studying ancient America! There is TONS in there that has been proven true!!"

<sigh>

She is right. Scientists have conclusively proved that the Americas were there and that boats had been invented by 600 BC. There are many other items of this sort.

Umm no, she's wrong and subsequently you are as well. I don't know if you were trying to be funny or what.

http://www.irr.org/mit/smithson.html

Well, humor is open to the interpretation of the reader, but out of curiosity, how were my statements wrong?

[_Scottie]

Thanks Liz.

And, Schmo, not that it's any of your business, but there is more to a relationship than getting it on. I've done the casual sex thing, and it's not for me. I'm sort of girly that way, in that I'd rather make love to someone that I'm in love with than just "cram and slap it" as you so eloquently put it. :)

And, no, marriage is not on the horizon. I honestly don't know where this will go. It may very well turn out that I can't date a TBM. But I happen to know a few guys that are living the lie and seem quite happy doing so. There are worse way to raise your kids. Plus, with me in the picture, I can separate supposed doctrine from the CTR A (or whatever) teacher's opinion. I can make sure my kids know how to think for themselves.

Thus far, I've been able to go to church, and it's really not that bad. The guys in my elders quorum are really cool and we have a lot of fun.

Now, when it comes time to pay tithing and wear garments.......that's going to be my Achilles heel.

[_Scottie]

So they scurry away trying to do these things, and the LDS faithful who even know FARMS exist look to them and think hey, some smart people are working on all of these questions, and they still believe in the church, so there must be a good reason for it.

My ex-wife has said this exact thing. "There are people WAY smarter than you that have seen all this stuff and still believe. How do you explain THAT??"

[_Some Schmo]

Thanks Liz.

And, Schmo, not that it's any of your business, but there is more to a relationship than getting it on. I've done the casual sex thing, and it's not for me. I'm sort of girly that way, in that I'd rather make love to someone that I'm in love with than just "cram and slap it" as you so eloquently put it. :)

And, no, marriage is not on the horizon. I honestly don't know where this will go. It may very well turn out that I can't date a TBM. But I happen to know a few guys that are living the lie and seem quite happy doing so. There are worse way to raise your kids. Plus, with me in the picture, I can separate supposed doctrine from the CTR A (or whatever) teacher's opinion. I can make sure my kids know how to think for themselves.

Thus far, I've been able to go to church, and it's really not that bad. The guys in my elders quorum are really cool and we have a lot of fun.

Now, when it comes time to pay tithing and wear garments.......that's going to be my Achilles heel.

I never said it was my business. When it comes right down to it, it's your funeral. The advice was free, and of course, you get what you pay for.

Yes, I'd rather "make love" to someone I cared for too. But like you said, there's more to a relationship than sex, and way more to a marriage. I personally think it's completely selfish and unfair to raise kids in a home where the parents aren't a relatively united front. I also don't think it's fair to children to have parents who "live a lie." You really think those guys you know are happy? If so, they must be easily satisfied (which is to say, they likely have no relationship standards whatsoever).

But dude, do what you want. If you don't mind going to church, have at 'er. I don't really care either way. All I said was, "Don't say I didn't warn you."

[_Scottie]

Thanks Liz.

And, Schmo, not that it's any of your business, but there is more to a relationship than getting it on. I've done the casual sex thing, and it's not for me. I'm sort of girly that way, in that I'd rather make love to someone that I'm in love with than just "cram and slap it" as you so eloquently put it. :)

And, no, marriage is not on the horizon. I honestly don't know where this will go. It may very well turn out that I can't date a TBM. But I happen to know a few guys that are living the lie and seem quite happy doing so. There are worse way to raise your kids. Plus, with me in the picture, I can separate supposed doctrine from the CTR A (or whatever) teacher's opinion. I can make sure my kids know how to think for themselves.

Thus far, I've been able to go to church, and it's really not that bad. The guys in my elders quorum are really cool and we have a lot of fun.

Now, when it comes time to pay tithing and wear garments.......that's going to be my Achilles heel.

I never said it was my business. When it comes right down to it, it's your funeral. The advice was free, and of course, you get what you pay for.

Yes, I'd rather "make love" to someone I cared for too. But like you said, there's more to a relationship than sex, and way more to a marriage. I personally think it's completely selfish and unfair to raise kids in a home where the parents aren't a relatively united front. I also don't think it's fair to children to have parents who "live a lie." You really think those guys you know are happy? If so, they must be easily satisfied (which is to say, they likely have no relationship standards whatsoever).

But dude, do what you want. If you don't mind going to church, have at 'er. I don't really care either way. All I said was, "Don't say I didn't warn you."

Thanks for the warning, man. I may very well heed it before this little experement is over. And, I may very well come crying to you 10 years from now saying, "DAMN!!! You were SOOOO right Schmo!!"

But, then again, I may live the rest of my days blissfully happy with the woman that I love, raising our kids the best way we know how.

[_Yoda]

But, then again, I may live the rest of my days blissfully happy with the woman that I love, raising our kids the best way we know how.

Awww....the romantic in me is hoping for the latter.

;)

[_Some Schmo]

Thanks for the warning, man. I may very well heed it before this little experement is over. And, I may very well come crying to you 10 years from now saying, "DAMN!!! You were SOOOO right Schmo!!"

Well, I do find myself liking what you have to write, so after a bit of consideration, I suppose there's a little part of me that actually does care in some small measure, and frankly, I hope it never comes to that.

But, then again, I may live the rest of my days blissfully happy with the woman that I love, raising our kids the best way we know how.

Maybe. Maybe Joe Smith was telling the truth, too. You just never know, do ya?

Here's a scenario for ya: child #1 says at the dinner table, "My friend says he doesn't believe in god. What do you think, Daddy?"

Who do you lie to? Wife or kid?

Just curious about the actual logistics of this blissfully happy family you're imagining.

;)

[_Some Schmo]

But, then again, I may live the rest of my days blissfully happy with the woman that I love, raising our kids the best way we know how.

Awww....the romantic in me is hoping for the latter.

;)

It just occurred to me: romantic = unrealistic.

Holy epiphany, Batman!

:D

[_Yoda]

OK, Schmo....That's 10 demerits for inspiring me to split the thread.

You'll find our comments where they belong...on the lower level here.

;)

Sorry, Scottie!

[_keene]

Thanks for the warning, man. I may very well heed it before this little experement is over. And, I may very well come crying to you 10 years from now saying, "DAMN!!! You were SOOOO right Schmo!!"

Well, I do find myself liking what you have to write, so after a bit of consideration, I suppose there's a little part of me that actually does care in some small measure, and frankly, I hope it never comes to that.

But, then again, I may live the rest of my days blissfully happy with the woman that I love, raising our kids the best way we know how.

Maybe. Maybe Joe Smith was telling the truth, too. You just never know, do ya?

Here's a scenario for ya: child #1 says at the dinner table, "My friend says he doesn't believe in god. What do you think, Daddy?"

Who do you lie to? Wife or kid?

Just curious about the actual logistics of this blissfully happy family you're imagining.

;)

And a couple others that kinda fit the situation:
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