Joseph Smith's Marital Bed

[_harmony]

I am arguing against statement made here that there are people who think God did not command plural marriage. That God wouldn't command plural marriage.

You're arguing against the Old Testament then. Because God doesn't and didn't command plural marriage. Plural marriage always came from a man. (As did all the rest of the Old Testament, since all of the Old Testament was written by men.)

[_Zoidberg]

I am arguing against statement made here that there are people who think God did not command plural marriage. That God wouldn't command plural marriage.

So what you are saying is that there aren't people who think God did not command plural marriage? I guess I don't exist, then.:)

[_sunstoned]

Charity,

Ever since you showed up posting on this board, my respect for you has gone way up. It takes guts to be here going toe to toe in open debate without having the moderation stacked in your favor. You have more guts than many who post on MADD. With that said, might I suggest that you take a step back and look at the evidence, both real and circumstantial surrounding Joseph Smith’s actions. If God, for some reason commanded Joseph Smith to take other men’s wives and daughters, then why did Joseph Smith feel the need to lie to the press, his real wife Emma, and members of the church? Lying is breaking a commandment. Was he ashamed of Gods command? It seemed he was always sneaking around like a lowlife adulter, not like a prophet of God.

You have been conditioned to think in a particular way. Just like the way I was, and just like many on this board have. I know how hard it is, but please try to think outside the Mormon box on this one.

[_dartagnan]

Ever since you showed up posting on this board, my respect for you has gone way up.

Then take a look at this:

http://mormondiscussions.com/discuss/vi ... php?t=3676

charity is perfectly willing to lie, so it should be no surprise that she allows Joseph Smith the same weakness.

[_truth dancer]

You are arguing against nothing. (sigh)

I am arguing against statement made here that there are people who think God did not command plural marriage. That God wouldn't command plural marriage.

There is a big difference between claiming that one knows what God thinks, and discounting the notion that God demands/commands humans to engage in horrific behavior. To suggest that one does not believe various men who claim to know the will of God, is not the same thing as saying, "I know what God thinks."

I wrote," Who has ever said all women would think this way or that way? "

Charity replies, "

Every post that says plural marriage was a crock and Joseph Smith made it up, is saying that. And there have been numerous posts about what marriage between one man and one woman is supposed to be and there oculdn't possibly be a satisfactory arrangment between 1 man and 2 women."

I doubt you would find one such post.

You either misread or misunderstand.

My observation is that most folks here could truly care less what sorts of alternative mating arrangments folks engage in, so long as they are adults and are free from coercion and manipulation... and children are not hurt.

Suggesting God was not at the helm of Joseph Smith's horrific behavior is much different than suggesting there are not those folks who want to engage in various unusual or alternative forms of mating.

And in the future I will post a bunch of short posts when I see one person make a specific statement. it will mean a proliferation of posts if I can't address the same issue with one post. But you want it that way, you got it.

I'm sorry, I have no idea what this statement means or what is your point, or what you think I want, but please feel free to post however suits you. This board is pretty good this way.

:-)

~dancer~