charity wrote:Moniker wrote:Please tell me what I've asserted you've said which you have not. YOU are the one that repeatedly asserts that I said something counter to what I actually said!
Check this one out:
Moniker wrote: You are the one linking neurosis (DEPRESSION) to an inability to consent. YOU are the one saying that a woman that is seeking love and instead gets a one night stand can not give consent. That is just plain NUTS! YOU are the one wiggling out of prior remarks.
I NEVER NEVER NEVER said that neurosis was the same as depression. NEVER NEVER NEVER.
Well you apparently don't understand neurosis and yet you used the term. How very bizarre.
This is what you have done consistently in this thread. So now, I have proven to you what you have been doing. Goodbye.
Charity, depression fits under the definition of neurosis. It is categorized under the definition of neurosis. YOU said neurosis -- that includes depression. You know this, right? What is your definition of neurosis (which is apparently different from any other source)?
Here ya go:
http://www.healthline.com/galecontent/n ... gn=article
The word neurosis means "nerve disorder," and was first coined in the late eighteenth century by William Cullen, a Scottish physician. Cullen's concept of neurosis encompassed those nervous disorders and symptoms that do not have a clear organic cause. Sigmund Freud later used the term anxiety neurosis to describe mental illness or distress with extreme anxiety as a defining feature.
There is a difference of opinion over the clinical use of the term neurosis today. It is not generally used as a diagnostic category by American psychologists and psychiatrists any longer, and was removed from the American Psychiatric Association's Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders in 1980 with the publication of the third edition (it last appeared as a diagnostic category in DSM-II). Some professionals use the term to describe anxious symptoms and associated behavior, or to describe the range of mental illnesses outside of the psychotic disorders (such as schizophrenia, delusional disorder). Others, particularly psychoanalysts (psychiatrists and psychologists who follow a psychoanalytical model of treatment, as popularized by Freud and Carl Jung), use the term neurosis to describe the internal process itself (called an unconscious conflict) that triggers the anxiety characteristic.
The neurotic disorders are distinct from psychotic disorders in that the individual with neurotic symptoms has a firm grip on reality, and the psychotic patient does not. Before their reclassification, there were several major traditional categories of psychological neuroses, including: anxiety neurosis, depressive neurosis, obsessive-compulsive neurosis, somatization, posttraumatic stress disorder, and compensation neurosis—not a true neurosis, but a form of malingering, or feigning psychological symptoms for monetary or other personal gain.
Just curious if having post-traumatic stress disorder (which used to be labeled as a neurosis) also means a woman is raped when she has sex? Since she's neurotic if she's suffering from PTSD then she's (according to Charity) been raped and is incapable of giving consent.
by the way, I'm still waiting for a response to my CFR that a woman that has numerous sexual partners in a quest for love (after abandonment) is neurotic and has been raped -- as you stated.
I suppose my problem all along is responding to your points with the belief that you understand what you're saying, apparently you don't.
You said neurosis, that includes depression. Perhaps, you should not try to make a case without understanding your own terminology. That may be a start.