The Copyrighted(?) Angle Moroni

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jskains wrote:
Infymus wrote:If you are a pro-Mormon site towing the party line, you will be ignored. Otherwise, you will be asked to cease and desist.


Any organization has a right to respond how they want to their images. And as nasty as you and your website get, I can honestly understand.

There is a difference between a critic and you. A critic has an intellectual debate. You just stamp your feet and cry all the time "Mormon, Inc." The "Mormon Cult", the "F**K Gordon", and all the other crap you spew, I welcome any attempt they can make against people like you.

I think an intellectual and critical website can exist without all the childish sprinklings peppered throughout the rants...

JMS


Joseph Smith, you must be one angry spiteful person. All you do is spew out hatred for people like me.

This is exactly your tactic. You are always on the attack. Did mommy not give you enough attention?
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asbestosman wrote:Doesn't law allow one to make use of such images for the purpose of parody or criticism?

Maybe critical sites could try using a picture of a devil with a trumpet instead.


Ultimately I think the Church needs to get over it.... And yes it should fall under parody.. But can you really blame them? Some of these websites are obsene... And if they are going after obsene websites, I am sure they have to spread it around. If they are going to control the image, they have to do it to everyone, parody or not.

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Infymus wrote:
jskains wrote:
Infymus wrote:If you are a pro-Mormon site towing the party line, you will be ignored. Otherwise, you will be asked to cease and desist.


Any organization has a right to respond how they want to their images. And as nasty as you and your website get, I can honestly understand.

There is a difference between a critic and you. A critic has an intellectual debate. You just stamp your feet and cry all the time "Mormon, Inc." The "Mormon Cult", the "F**K Gordon", and all the other crap you spew, I welcome any attempt they can make against people like you.

I think an intellectual and critical website can exist without all the childish sprinklings peppered throughout the rants...

JMS


Joseph Smith, you must be one angry spiteful person. All you do is spew out hatred for people like me.

This is exactly your tactic. You are always on the attack. Did mommy not give you enough attention?


Hey, is this guy your dad?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPjZzCJ7ODs

You guys act a lot a like. If not related, is he your hero?

JMS
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Infymus wrote:Joseph Smith, you must be one angry spiteful person. All you do is spew out hatred for people like me.


Oh, my... My side is splitting.... Dude, you really need to stop and read what you write.

You must be one angry spiteful person. All you do is spew out hatred for everything Mormon.

Classic.

JMS
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On a side note, the church can copyright a logo, but can they copyright a historic figure, such as the Angel Moroni? Could I start a business called "The Angel Moroni's Coffee Shop" featuring my own original image of Moroni drinking a cup of joe? I think that's where the coffee shop screwed up. They used a copyrighted logo instead of a non-copyrighted person.
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SatanWasSetUp wrote:On a side note, the church can copyright a logo, but can they copyright a historic figure, such as the Angel Moroni? Could I start a business called "The Angel Moroni's Coffee Shop" featuring my own original image of Moroni drinking a cup of joe? I think that's where the coffee shop screwed up. They used a copyrighted logo instead of a non-copyrighted person.


I was thinking that. It certainly hurts us LDS... I can believe in the LDS church, but still think some of the PR need to get some better training.

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It's probably not a "Copyright" it's more likely to be a "Trademark". There are differences, maybe one of the lawyers types here can clarify it for us.
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jskains wrote:
SatanWasSetUp wrote:On a side note, the church can copyright a logo, but can they copyright a historic figure, such as the Angel Moroni? Could I start a business called "The Angel Moroni's Coffee Shop" featuring my own original image of Moroni drinking a cup of joe? I think that's where the coffee shop screwed up. They used a copyrighted logo instead of a non-copyrighted person.


I was thinking that. It certainly hurts us LDS... I can believe in the LDS church, but still think some of the PR need to get some better training.

JMS


If I had said this, you'd have attacked me as being Anti-Mormon full of hatred.

You OTOH, can say this and it is OK?
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Sorry John, I didn't mean to derail your topic with Joseph Smith's childishness.

If there was only some way to completely ignore his constant attacks. He seems to totally thrive on one line bait and run posts.

Your post is very valid and doesn't deserve all the flack.

Cheers.
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Infymus wrote:
jskains wrote:
SatanWasSetUp wrote:On a side note, the church can copyright a logo, but can they copyright a historic figure, such as the Angel Moroni? Could I start a business called "The Angel Moroni's Coffee Shop" featuring my own original image of Moroni drinking a cup of joe? I think that's where the coffee shop screwed up. They used a copyrighted logo instead of a non-copyrighted person.


I was thinking that. It certainly hurts us LDS... I can believe in the LDS church, but still think some of the PR need to get some better training.

JMS


If I had said this, you'd have attacked me as being Anti-Mormon full of hatred.

You OTOH, can say this and it is OK?


No... This is how YOU would say it:

"I think the dumbasses at Mormon, Inc. have continued their cultish tactics and must stop poisoning the people with its lies!"

See the difference, homeslice? Your approach sucks.

JMS
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