"The Dark Road to Apostasy"

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charity wrote:
Mercury wrote:A little advice sweetheart:


Knock off the sexual harrassment.


Knock off the embarrasing behavior first sweetheart.
And crawling on the planet's face
Some insects called the human race
Lost in time
And lost in space...and meaning
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Re: "The Dark Road to Apostasy"

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Doctor Steuss wrote:
Vilifying those on the other side of the fence is easier than admitting that perhaps the clover in the other pasture is just as palatable.


by the way, I thought this was brilliant! And I certainly see both sides acting this way....
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Post by _cacheman »

LDS are more educated than any other religious group.

Charity, if you can't support this statement, you should retract it, or at least qualify it as simply your opinion. You've made more than several posts since people have CFR'd this statement. Do you have a response?

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cacheman wrote:
LDS are more educated than any other religious group.

Charity, if you can't support this statement, you should retract it, or at least qualify it as simply your opinion. You've made more than several posts since people have CFR'd this statement. Do you have a response?

cacheman


I alrerady stated in a previous post in this thread that I can't find the source. It was a website which compared world religions on various matters. How many times do I need to say that?

One of the data points was that LDS adults have a higher percentage of fluency in a second langauge than others. No doubt due to missions although the reason was not given.

I won't retract it because I know I read it. It isn't just my opinion.
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Post by _the road to hana »

charity wrote:
cacheman wrote:
LDS are more educated than any other religious group.

Charity, if you can't support this statement, you should retract it, or at least qualify it as simply your opinion. You've made more than several posts since people have CFR'd this statement. Do you have a response?

cacheman


I alrerady stated in a previous post in this thread that I can't find the source. It was a website which compared world religions on various matters. How many times do I need to say that?

One of the data points was that LDS adults have a higher percentage of fluency in a second langauge than others. No doubt due to missions although the reason was not given.

I won't retract it because I know I read it. It isn't just my opinion.


Try this from Scott Gordon:

http://www.fairlds.org/Misc/Education_S ... onism.html
The road is beautiful, treacherous, and full of twists and turns.
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Post by _ludwigm »

charity wrote:
ludwigm wrote:
Jersey Girl wrote:
charity wrote:
There was a study, which I can't find now, which I think was only US. and I am sure that the second,third generations would improve on their parents education level since the Church stresses education so much.
...
ludwigm wrote:LDS leaders are less educated even in their own religion
...
The leaders of the other churches are required to have many particular earthly training ...

If you only count education in religion, you may be right. We do not require divinity school degreees in any of our leaders. But our leaders are very educated in reputable fields, much more so than mere divinity school degrees. For instance our Twelve apostles, currently have degrees in law, in medicine, in education. Real educations for the real world.


" ... the Church stresses education so much"
- - The level of the education has no correlation with parents' and grandparents' religion.

"If you only count education in religion, you may be right."
- - Thank you for the "maybe".

"We do not require divinity school degreees in any of our leaders."
- -This is one of the (many) errors of the LDS church.

"But our leaders are very educated in reputable fields ... "
- - ... which may doesn't count in religion.

"For instance our Twelve apostles, currently have degrees in law, in medicine ... "
- - ... which may doesn't count in religion.

" ... in education "
- - YES!!! This would be fine.



charity wrote: ...
Real educations for the real world.

Do You mean the "of the world" things?

Gordon B. Hinckley, An Ensign to the Nations, a Light to the World, Liahona, Nov 2003, 82–85 wrote:...
The world is constantly crowding in on us.
...
We must hold back the world.

Follow the prophet!
- Whenever a poet or preacher, chief or wizard spouts gibberish, the human race spends centuries deciphering the message. - Umberto Eco
- To assert that the earth revolves around the sun is as erroneous as to claim that Jesus was not born of a virgin. - Cardinal Bellarmine at the trial of Galilei
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charity wrote:
cacheman wrote:
LDS are more educated than any other religious group.

Charity, if you can't support this statement, you should retract it, or at least qualify it as simply your opinion. You've made more than several posts since people have CFR'd this statement. Do you have a response?

cacheman


I alrerady stated in a previous post in this thread that I can't find the source. It was a website which compared world religions on various matters. How many times do I need to say that?

One of the data points was that LDS adults have a higher percentage of fluency in a second langauge than others. No doubt due to missions although the reason was not given.

I won't retract it because I know I read it. It isn't just my opinion.

I don't argue that LDS aren't more educated than many or even most other religious groups. The importance of education in LDS lives is well supported. My personal experience however is largely limited to LDS and Quaker groups. I'm interested in seeing the comparisons between those two religious groups.

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Post by _charity »

the road to hana wrote:

Try this from Scott Gordon:

http://www.fairlds.org/Misc/Education_S ... onism.html


Thanks, road. I knew about that but it doesn't compare LDS to other religions. The article I saw did that. Grrrr. It makes me mad when I do that. I have to learn to add to favorites when I find something useful.
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charity wrote:
the road to hana wrote:

Try this from Scott Gordon:

http://www.fairlds.org/Misc/Education_S ... onism.html


Thanks, road. I knew about that but it doesn't compare LDS to other religions. The article I saw did that. Grrrr. It makes me mad when I do that. I have to learn to add to favorites when I find something useful.


I tried to do a search to see if I could find it. It sounds like an interesting study. I'll let you know if I find it. Do the same on your end, OK?

:)
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Post by _charity »

ludwigm wrote:
LDS leaders are less educated even in their own religion


This is an absolute falsehood.

ludwigm wrote:
"We do not require divinity school degreees in any of our leaders."
- -This is one of the (many) errors of the LDS church.


What would a divinity school degree do for a leader of the Church? They are tutored by the spirit in what they need to know. We do study our scriptures. I would like you to explain just how a Mormon divinity school degree wold be a requisite.

ludwigm wrote:
"But our leaders are very educated in reputable fields ... "
- - ... which may doesn't count in religion.


It just shows that they are educted people.
ludwigm wrote:
"For instance our Twelve apostles, currently have degrees in law, in medicine ... "
- - ... which may doesn't count in religion.


It just shows that they are educated people.
ludwigm wrote:

" ... in education "
- - YES!!! This would be fine.


Why? I don't understand what you think would help a person receive inspiration from God and then communicate it to others. This is a sign of the apostasy that only the highly education are qualified to preach to the masses.

ludwigm wrote:

charity wrote: ...
Real educations for the real world.

Do You mean the "of the world" things?

Gordon B. Hinckley, An Ensign to the Nations, a Light to the World, Liahona, Nov 2003, 82–85 wrote:...
The world is constantly crowding in on us.
...
We must hold back the world.

Follow the prophet!


You don't understand. We must be in the world, but not of it.
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