Who has killed more humans, Satan or God?

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G-d and Satan don't kill people. People kill people.

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Doc wrote:G-d and Satan don't kill people. People kill people.

Guns don't kill people. Rappers do.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xv-2XYOtgCg
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Post by _SatanWasSetUp »

asbestosman wrote:
DonBradley wrote:
asbestosman wrote:What about Job's family?


Uh, God killed them on a dare. While the dare was made by Satan, God was the one who took it.


But Job 1 states 12 And the LORD said unto Satan, Behold, all that he hath is in thy power; only upon himself put not forth thine hand. So Satan went forth from the presence of the LORD.
Looks like Satan did the work, but God gave permission.

On the other hand, verse 16 talks about the fire from God (lightning) killing Job's sheep.

by the way, B&L, the OP question is a good one. One might also ask how many genocides the Bible describes Satan ordering, relative to how many it describes God ordering. (I believe the correct answers are "zero" and "nineteen," respectively.)

You may be right about genocides, but I recall some murders being influenced such as that of Shadrach, and co. as well as Daniel in the lion's Den. Let us also not forget Pharoah vs the Israelites--that's pretty close to genocide although Satan isn't explicitly given credit for any of it (in fact, the Old Testament states that the Lord hardened Pharoah's heart . . . ).


Even if you credit the murder of Job's family to Satan, God is still way ahead in number of kills.
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RenegadeOfPhunk wrote:
Doc wrote:G-d and Satan don't kill people. People kill people.

Guns don't kill people. Rappers do.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xv-2XYOtgCg

Your Missus is a nutter.
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Doctor Steuss wrote:Your Missus is a nutter.

Your mothers got a...

...na - I'm kidding of course. How would I know?
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Post by _karl61 »

read Joshua and Samuel in some other version than the king james - God's commanding Saul to take out who villages - women, children, infants and the live stock. David also gets to do the same. The church keeps people ignorant when keeping them in the king james version.
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Boaz & Lidia wrote:
Jersey Girl wrote:
John Larsen wrote:
DonBradley wrote:
asbestosman wrote:What about Job's family?



Of course, it's been a while since God is supposed to have ordered such a slaughter. As humanity becomes more moral, God appears to do so as well.

Don

No, He's just holding out for the big killing orgy that's coming at the end.

John


What killing orgy at the end? Huh?
Funny bone in the shop for recalibration?


No, Bozo,

I asked a question. Still waiting for an answer from John Larsen.
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No Need for "vacant stare"

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Moniker wrote:
DonBradley wrote:As humanity becomes more moral, God appears to do so as well.



That's quite something! Isn't it? *vacant stare*


Why a “vacant stare”?

Throughout the history of God myths, those God inventions have mirrored the image of man.

In the Old Testament, the God inventions were ruthless, cruel, unforgiving. The flood allegedly killed every man, woman, child, and anything that did not swim except for those carefully gathered for the Ark boat ride.

There is no way to count the number of people executed by water according to that myth. Apparently Satan wasn’t on board the Ark.

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Re: No Need for "vacant stare"

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JAK wrote:
Moniker wrote:
DonBradley wrote:As humanity becomes more moral, God appears to do so as well.



That's quite something! Isn't it? *vacant stare*


Why a “vacant stare”?

Throughout the history of God myths, those God inventions have mirrored the image of man.

In the Old Testament, the God inventions were ruthless, cruel, unforgiving. The flood allegedly killed every man, woman, child, and anything that did not swim except for those carefully gathered for the Ark boat ride.

There is no way to count the number of people executed by water according to that myth. Apparently Satan wasn’t on board the Ark.

JAK


Uh, *vacant stare* 'cause I had a momentary thought and tried to snap out of it. ;)

I understand that God is created in the image of those that worship He, not the other way around.

But, thanks for the input, JAK!
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