Bill Maher nails Romney on Larry King

[_Coggins7]

Now...might I point out just a couple of things and say upfront that I'm no big fan of Maher having said that...

Maher is first and foremost, an entertainer not a "pundit" as Coggins claims.

Maher is anti-organized religion, not anti-God (That's for Gaz)

As Bond pointed out, Maher's comments regarding shape shifting were a valid comparison between the track record of the church on issues such as polygamy and blacks holding the priesthood...and Romney's wiggling around on issues. Same exact thing.

Now..why can't people answer a simple question without others having to pull their teeth?

I didn't say he was a pundit, but he certainly seems to think of himself as one and functions in that capacity at times. He is also a typical liberal celebrity twit, and therefore, when he does function in that capacity, he makes an abject fool of himself. But again, so do most Hollywood celebrities when they open their mouths upon serious subjects, so Maher is not an island in the culture of which he is a part.

[_Jersey Girl]

Now...might I point out just a couple of things and say upfront that I'm no big fan of Maher having said that...

Maher is first and foremost, an entertainer not a "pundit" as Coggins claims.

Maher is anti-organized religion, not anti-God (That's for Gaz)

As Bond pointed out, Maher's comments regarding shape shifting were a valid comparison between the track record of the church on issues such as polygamy and blacks holding the priesthood...and Romney's wiggling around on issues. Same exact thing.

Now..why can't people answer a simple question without others having to pull their teeth?

I didn't say he was a pundit, but he certainly seems to think of himself as one and functions in that capacity at times. He is also a typical liberal celebrity twit, and therefore, when he does function in that capacity, he makes an abject fool of himself. But again, so do most Hollywood celebrities when they open their mouths upon serious subjects, so Maher is not an island in the culture of which he is a part.

Are these not your words?

Mr. Marher is, not to put too fine a point on it, an airhead; one of the most uneducated and uninformed pundits on the American scene. That he is a left wing airhead makes him all the more grating, as this ideology gives him an ethical freedom similar conservatives do not, as a general rule, enjoy

[_Coggins7]

Oh, and by the way, Maher wouldn't know the nuances and specific points of the Church's beliefs regarding polygamy (as if Maher would really object to this as long as it happened in a consecutive manner. Oh please give me a break) or its position on Blacks and the Priesthood it they reared up and clamped onto both cheeks.

Its break time folks, and I'm ready.

[_Coggins7]

Are these not your words?

Quote:

Mr. Marher is, not to put too fine a point on it, an airhead; one of the most uneducated and uninformed pundits on the American scene. That he is a left wing airhead makes him all the more grating, as this ideology gives him an ethical freedom similar conservatives do not, as a general rule, enjoy

Then let me alter that and be more clear: I don't think he's a pundit, but he definitely thinks he is, or can be, and takes up that function on his show and in print, and in that function, he fails, because he is an airhead.

OK?

[_JAK]

Are these not your words?

Quote:

Mr. Marher is, not to put too fine a point on it, an airhead; one of the most uneducated and uninformed pundits on the American scene. That he is a left wing airhead makes him all the more grating, as this ideology gives him an ethical freedom similar conservatives do not, as a general rule, enjoy

Then let me alter that and be more clear: I don't think he's a pundit, but he definitely thinks he is, or can be, and takes up that function on his show and in print, and in that function, he fails, because he is an airhead.

OK?

Bill Maher is a comedian. Beyond that he is bright, literate, informed, and insightful in his comedy. He certainly is no “air-head."

Those here who would criticize Maher are incapable of such literate comedy. He is not only funny, he is solid in analysis through that comedy. That’s a reason he appears on Larry King Live. We who post here do not appear on Larry King Live.

While it may be self-serving to attack Bill Maher, the audience here is infinitesimal compared with the Maher audience for his show and the audience for the King show.

Keep in mind that while King has Maher on his show, he also has a host of conservative politicians and pundits on his show as well.

King is always in search of guests many of whom have controversial positions. Maher simply takes facts from the news and turns them into comedy as well as information. Jay Leno does the same thing. Virtually all comedians capitalize on some news stories and use those stories in their comedy routines.

JAK

[_JAK]

Mr. Marher is, not to put too fine a point on it, an airhead; one of the most uneducated and uninformed pundits on the American scene. That he is a left wing airhead makes him all the more grating, as this ideology gives him an ethical freedom similar conservatives do not, as a general rule, enjoy.

Maher will not be remembered as anyone of any importance, unlike President Hinkley.

In what way is Maher "one of the most uneducated"?

In terms of what?

Jersey, Maher is a dip. I've never heard an informed or intellectually substantive comment come out of his philistine mouth, and much of what he's said over the years has been frankly outrageous. He's an airhead Hollywood liberal with a big mouth, many opinions, and little actual knowledge. He's one of the most uneducated, yes, but that's only saying his bulb is somewhat dimmer than most other denizens of the entertainment class. We are, after all, speaking of a class of people that included intellectual heavyweights like Sean Penn, George Cloony, and Ted Danson.

Please answer my damn question. In what way is he "one of the most uneducated"?

You want quotations? Look up the idiotic statements regarding politics, social issues, and religion over the years yourself. The Web is chock full of them. Gaz has some above.

At the very least, his lack of education comes out in his lack of intellectual substance. His statements regarding religion are not those of a temperate, serious mind speaking upon serious issues.

Okay, forget the back door, let's barge right through the front door since you can't seem to answer a simple question on point.

What is his educational level?

What’s Coggins’ educational level and from what educational institution?

JAK

[_Trevor]

What Maher said is basically true...Mormons do have a history of shifting positions. Polygamy being the biggest of course.

I am somewhat sympathetic to what you are saying here, but to call the changes in Mormonism to which Maher was referring, which came after years of holding out and various threats from the federal government essentially the same as Mitt rebranding every few weeks is kind of intellectually sloppy. Don't get me wrong. I am not about giving a pass to the eternal, but somehow malleable word of God, but I think there is a big difference here. I would also submit that what many people hate about Mormons is their unwillingness to change enough (accept creedal Trinitarianism, for example), not their changing every five minutes. I find it is we ex-mos who most often complain about their chameleon nature, and mostly to throw the eternal nature of the Gospel back in their faces.

[_why me]

Maher tends to insult people who are religious but that is also what makes him fashionable. He did make a mistake on Larry King challenging Larry about the character of Gordon B. Hinckley. Wisely, Maher backed down because he understood that he was stretching the boundaries with larry and if he would have continued wih the challenge, Larry would have put him in his place.

There are a couple shock presenters out there who tend to get a laugh or two by mocking various religious beliefs. It does pay the bills these days.

[_karl61]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Maher#Early_life_and_career

He has a BA in English from Cornell.

Yes, thank you, Coggins.

:-)

I bet you there was a time when Cornell did not let blacks, women, jews into their school, like most Ivy League schools. I wonder if he has ever brought that up. Of course they don't claim revelation either. I guess this guy likes to throw stones.

[_Coggins7]

Bill Maher is a comedian. Beyond that he is bright, literate, informed, and insightful in his comedy. He certainly is no “air-head."

Those here who would criticize Maher are incapable of such literate comedy. He is not only funny, he is solid in analysis through that comedy. That’s a reason he appears on Larry King Live. We who post here do not appear on Larry King Live.

While it may be self-serving to attack Bill Maher, the audience here is infinitesimal compared with the Maher audience for his show and the audience for the King show.

Keep in mind that while King has Maher on his show, he also has a host of conservative politicians and pundits on his show as well.

King is always in search of guests many of whom have controversial positions. Maher simply takes facts from the news and turns them into comedy as well as information. Jay Leno does the same thing. Virtually all comedians capitalize on some news stories and use those stories in their comedy routines.

Coming from JAK, this only proves the old adage that it takes one to know one. Maher is a typical leftist celebrity airhead, as any number of his comments on numerous issues over the years demonstrate.

Further, almost nobody watches Larry King Live or CNN in any event, so what is really being argued here is a very minor talk show host interviewing a cookie cutter Hollywood leftist Twinkie head who thinks people care what he thinks about politics or religion. There are among us, people like JAK who's intellectual development and depth have not evolved, as of yet, beyond the either the Bill Maher or CNN level.