Call for BCSpace to explain the TRUE doctrine of polygamy

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liz3564 wrote:BC, have you ever discussed plural marriage with your wife? Do you think she would be thrilled about actually living the practice?


Some of the women at MAD said they rather liked the idea of having sister-wives.
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moksha wrote:
liz3564 wrote:BC, have you ever discussed plural marriage with your wife? Do you think she would be thrilled about actually living the practice?


Some of the women at MAD said they rather liked the idea of having sister-wives.


I rather like the idea of a maid, but God hasn't seen fit to mandate it yet. Just like he didn't mandate plural marriage.

What Joseph did wasn't unique... unfortunately.
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bcspace wrote:
If we assumed God sanctioned the FLDS to continue as Joseph Smith did, is the current FLDS polygamy a good thing in your eyes?


Since we cannot so assume, the FLDS practice is a bad thing, not being sanctioned by the Lord.
Really?

According to whom or what authority?

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moksha wrote:
liz3564 wrote:BC, have you ever discussed plural marriage with your wife? Do you think she would be thrilled about actually living the practice?


Some of the women at MAD said they rather liked the idea of having sister-wives.


So long as I get to be head wife, and I get to dictate the sex lives of the other wives (in other words they don't have one), I'm cool. They can be house ornaments...
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Hey Mok,

Some of the women at MAD said they rather liked the idea of having sister-wives.


What in the world does this mean? :-)

Are you saying these women like the idea of having their women friends sleeping with their husbands?

I mean seriously, a woman can have great, close friends, without these friends having sex with her husband? To be honest, it sounds really weird to me that women somehow enjoy the idea of their husbands sleeping with other women... but there are all sorts of "odd" practices some people enjoy... nothing surprises me any more. ;-)

I do know of a handful of women who like the idea of living the harem lifestyle... in virtually EVERY case of which I am aware, these women basically do not like men, sex, intimacy with a man, and/or even being around men much.

A few months ago I had an online discussion with a non-LDS woman who had endured many unhealthy relationships and she said she wished society was set up where she could live with her best friends (since guys were so abusive), and have a man around she could visit once in a while for some great sex. I thought she would be great in a harem type of arrangement, except for the fact that she would most likely not actually have much sex with the guy if he had a bunch of other women around. :-(

In addition, there will always be women who want to attach to the most wealthy and powerful man... just look at famous athletes, cult and religious leaders, or rich and powerful men! We just have to turn on the TV and we can see plenty of women who would be happy for a night or two with some actor or sports figure.

So, yeah, for the above types of women, polygamy certainly works.

I still go with the reality that humans have evolved to engage in monogamy for important reasons of survival. Polygamy is rare in the human because it is not in the best interest of humans generally, children, or society.

And, my personal more spiritual view is that, the ability for an unrelated man and woman to bond for life, is pretty incredible. The emotional intimacy, the discovery and sharing of self, the harmony and balance of the union, the unbelievable sexual passion and connection, and all of the amazing things that emerge in a bonded human couple, that are impossible in the harem lifestyle are in my opinion, definitely a "miracle." This miraculous ability that has come forth through evolution is beyond anything that could possibly exist in the more primitive mating practices where a male was basically a sperm donor.

But again, yes there are women who do enjoy living an alternative lifestyle where they do not have to bond with, have sex with, or endure the companionship of a man.

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truth dancer wrote:Hey Mok,

Some of the women at MAD said they rather liked the idea of having sister-wives.


What in the world does this mean? :-)

Are you saying these women like the idea of having their women friends sleeping with their husbands?

I mean seriously, a woman can have great, close friends, without these friends having sex with her husband? To be honest, it sounds really weird to me that women somehow enjoy the idea of their husbands sleeping with other women


Have you seen that Jack in the Box commercial, where Jack and his wife are in a hot tub with another couple who look like aged pornstars, and they are discussing trying new things? Some women like the idea of sharing their husbands with their friends. These people are called swingers.
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Hey SWSU.... :-)
Have you seen that Jack in the Box commercial, where Jack and his wife are in a hot tub with another couple who look like aged pornstars, and they are discussing trying new things? Some women like the idea of sharing their husbands with their friends. These people are called swingers.


I haven't seen the commercial.... but typically swingers and those who live a polyamorous lifestyle have open relationships for both men and women.

I think those who enjoy an open relationship are much different than women who enjoy the idea of having their girlfriends sleep with their husbands. But as I said, nothing surprises me anymore. Seriously!

:-)

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Post by _SatanWasSetUp »

bcspace wrote:
Do you see any situation where a non-LDS group could be authorized by god to practice it.


No.

Maybe they are practicing it based on their interpretation of god's commandments.


I say, let them according to my proviso listed previously.

In other words, how do you know a non-LDS polygamous group is in violation of god?


Simply by being nonLDS.


Is this because god does not talk to people who aren't LDS?
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moksha wrote:
The Nehor wrote:I imagine that if God commanded a group to practice polygamy and the Mormons all gathered their pitchforks and torches to burn them out God would see fit to tell them to stop.


Stop the polygamists or the Mormons? Is this with or without the aid of the Danites?


Whichever he wanted to stop. He's God. He can make the decision. I doubt he'd use Danites. They weren't effective then, why bring them back now?
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liz3564 wrote:BC, have you ever discussed plural marriage with your wife? Do you think she would be thrilled about actually living the practice?



Hi There Liz,

Well, any woman who believes in the 'law' of plural marriage, and who wants to be willing to want to live the law of plural marriage in the next life, better be willing to want to live the law of plural marriage in this life. The reason is because the same spirit that has possession on your body in this life, will also have possession of your body 'body' into the next life.
Here is Alma chapter 34, Verses 32-35, From the Book of Mormon:

Alma 34:32-35:

[32] For behold, this life is the time for men to prepare to meet God; yea, behold the day of this life is the day for men to perform their labors.

[33] And now, as I said unto you before, as ye have had so many witnesses, therefore, I beseech of you that ye do not procrastinate the day of your repentance until the end; for after this day of life, which is given us to prepare for eternity, behold, if we do not improve our time while in this life, then cometh the night of darkness wherein there can be no labor performed.

[34] Ye cannot say, when ye are brought to that awful crisis, that I will repent, that I will return to my God. Nay, ye cannot say this; for that same spirit which doth possess your bodies at the time that ye go out of this life, that same spirit will have power to possess your body in that eternal world.

[35] For behold, if ye have procrastinated the day of your repentance even until death, behold, ye have become subjected to the spirit of the devil, and he doth seal you his; therefore, the Spirit of the Lord hath withdrawn from you, and hath no place in you, and the devil hath all power over you; and this is the final state of the wicked.



Fortunately, the Lord God of the Book of Mormon is anti-Polygamy, and He will Not require any woman to have to enter into Polygamy, to be able to enter into the highest degree of Heaven.
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