LDS "Church Handbook of Instructions" on Wikileaks

[_Jason Bourne]

And women have their own copy of book two.

But not book one.

Correct. In a ward only members of the bishopric have book one. But I think most reasonable leaders would let anyone who asked take a look.

[_Jason Bourne]

And women have their own copy of book two.

But not book one.

What else can be expected of such a misogynistic religion?

I'd like for a woman from this board to ask her bishop if she can borrow the CHI. I'd like to see how "reasonable" the bishop would be about it.

KA

I wonder what's in book one that is so all-fired important, women can't see it? And I wonder if men outside of the leadership circle can see it?

There was a time when I did not have one and asked to see one and was loaned it for over two weeks. When I have had one I would have let anyone who asked see it.

[_harmony]

And women have their own copy of book two.

But not book one.

What else can be expected of such a misogynistic religion?

I'd like for a woman from this board to ask her bishop if she can borrow the CHI. I'd like to see how "reasonable" the bishop would be about it.

KA

I wonder what's in book one that is so all-fired important, women can't see it? And I wonder if men outside of the leadership circle can see it?

There was a time when I did not have one and asked to see one and was loaned it for over two weeks. When I have had one I would have let anyone who asked see it.

So... what's in Book 1?

[_The Nehor]

So... what's in Book 1?

Why not read it, it's downloadable.

[_skippy the dead]

I think the church will try, quietly. I think if the move becomes a PR problem, they'll back off. I don't see why the church would have any more clout than the Scientologists do, as far as international law is concerned, and their stuff is still up.

Might be deeper pockets.

It's not just a question of funding (and believe me, the Scientologists have plenty of that). There's really a black hole in the law. The church would need to find a responsible party (which hasn't been done just yet, despite many efforts), and the appropriate jurisdiction in which to bring the case (so far it's not the US), if that jurisdiction even allows for the kinds of protection that the church is seeking. This one might be beyond their reach.

[_Jason Bourne]

And women have their own copy of book two.

But not book one.

What else can be expected of such a misogynistic religion?

I'd like for a woman from this board to ask her bishop if she can borrow the CHI. I'd like to see how "reasonable" the bishop would be about it.

KA

I wonder what's in book one that is so all-fired important, women can't see it? And I wonder if men outside of the leadership circle can see it?

There was a time when I did not have one and asked to see one and was loaned it for over two weeks. When I have had one I would have let anyone who asked see it.

So... what's in Book 1?

Well now you can go on line and read the previous one which is pretty much the same as the current one. But it covers a lot of boring stuff-responsibilities of SPs, BRs, HPGL and EQs. How to administer welfare, ward and stake callings and so on, mission calls, do DCs and what actions will always result in a DC, civil weddings, temple sealings, all about who can and cannot be sealed, who needs cancellations vs. clearances, sealing adopted children, and so on. Also policies like the one about sterilization surrogatge mothers, in vitro fertilization, abortion and so on.

[_Mercury]

I don't think they're going to make it disappear from Wikileaks!

The Church of Scientology is threatening Wikileaks due to their publishing of formerly unreleased Scientology manuals. Wikileaks isn't backing down at all. I think, at least for now, they're fairly untouchable.

Care to make a wager on it?

Oh this is going to be good

Jason, I bet they can't get it off the site. what are you putting up? How bout a skeptical talk in HPG?

If I lose you want me to bring up a skeptic's position in High Priest's Group? What will you give if you lose and what it the time frame?

Good stipulations. What do you suggest?

[_Jason Bourne]

I don't think they're going to make it disappear from Wikileaks!

The Church of Scientology is threatening Wikileaks due to their publishing of formerly unreleased Scientology manuals. Wikileaks isn't backing down at all. I think, at least for now, they're fairly untouchable.

Care to make a wager on it?

Oh this is going to be good

Jason, I bet they can't get it off the site. what are you putting up? How bout a skeptical talk in HPG?

If I lose you want me to bring up a skeptic's position in High Priest's Group? What will you give if you lose and what it the time frame?

Good stipulations. What do you suggest?

Should we give it one year?

[_Mercury]

I don't think they're going to make it disappear from Wikileaks!

The Church of Scientology is threatening Wikileaks due to their publishing of formerly unreleased Scientology manuals. Wikileaks isn't backing down at all. I think, at least for now, they're fairly untouchable.

Care to make a wager on it?

Oh this is going to be good

Jason, I bet they can't get it off the site. what are you putting up? How bout a skeptical talk in HPG?

If I lose you want me to bring up a skeptic's position in High Priest's Group? What will you give if you lose and what it the time frame?

Good stipulations. What do you suggest?

Should we give it one year?

And what shall I use for my ante?

[_Jason Bourne]

I don't think they're going to make it disappear from Wikileaks!

The Church of Scientology is threatening Wikileaks due to their publishing of formerly unreleased Scientology manuals. Wikileaks isn't backing down at all. I think, at least for now, they're fairly untouchable.

Care to make a wager on it?

Oh this is going to be good

Jason, I bet they can't get it off the site. what are you putting up? How bout a skeptical talk in HPG?

If I lose you want me to bring up a skeptic's position in High Priest's Group? What will you give if you lose and what it the time frame?

Good stipulations. What do you suggest?

Should we give it one year?

And what shall I use for my ante?

You must attend sacrament meeting two weeks in a row-this assuming you do not currently attend at all.