The Gullible Mind

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_beastie
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Post by _beastie »

Excellent point, Chris.

I actually did try to investigate Mormonism's claims before joining, but did not have access to information that enabled me to do so.

So DCP won't correct his altered quote, and that result is fine, as well. I will use it in my own sig line to demonstrate how apologists alter citations to suit their purposes, despite accusing critics of so doing. :)

Actually, I changed my mind about my sig line. I'm sure people will sense something is "off" with that quote. Instead, I think I'll just provide a link to my favorite MAD thread.

So, DCP, do you think you are NOT gullible?
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We hate to seem like we don’t trust every nut with a story, but there’s evidence we can point to, and dance while shouting taunting phrases.

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_truth dancer
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Post by _truth dancer »

The other important point to remember is that in recognizing ones human gullibility one becomes less gullible. :-)

The more one denies this tendency of the human brain the more gullible one is.

~dancer~

I'll second Beastie's book recommendation!
"The search for reality is the most dangerous of all undertakings for it destroys the world in which you live." Nisargadatta Maharaj
_Daniel Peterson
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Post by _Daniel Peterson »

CaliforniaKid wrote:There's a difference between gullibility and irrationality.

Gosh. Really?

Thanks for the heads up.

CaliforniaKid wrote:Beastie's conversion to Mormonism fits the parameters of gullibility

Precisely as, from her perspective, your commitment to Christianity does.

CaliforniaKid wrote:certain FARMS apologists . . . who . . . would have no audience at all if not for human gullibility, and so should not belittle the gullible masses).

Which is pretty much what beastie would say about anybody who defends or advocates Christianity or even theism.
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Post by _CaliforniaKid »

Daniel Peterson wrote:Precisely as, from her perspective, your commitment to Christianity does.


I daresay you don't know very much about my "commitment to Christianity".
_beastie
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Post by _beastie »

Which is pretty much what beastie would say about anybody who defends or advocates Christianity or even theism.


And this helps you... how?

by the way, I'm an agnostic atheist, which means that I would likely not generically apply gullibility in regards to any belief in a godbeing. There are specific claims that I do believe the charge could apply to, however, outside of Mormonism, obviously.
We hate to seem like we don’t trust every nut with a story, but there’s evidence we can point to, and dance while shouting taunting phrases.

Penn & Teller

http://www.mormonmesoamerica.com
_Daniel Peterson
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Post by _Daniel Peterson »

beastie wrote:
Which is pretty much what beastie would say about anybody who defends or advocates Christianity or even theism.

And this helps you... how?

It neither helps nor hurts me.

But it does suggest that CK should be careful in his choice of allies.
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Post by _Some Schmo »

Daniel Peterson wrote:
beastie wrote:
Which is pretty much what beastie would say about anybody who defends or advocates Christianity or even theism.

And this helps you... how?

It neither helps nor hurts me.

But it does suggest that CK should be careful in his choice of allies.


Right, because it's a war between the god-fearing and the non-believers, isn't it? Us against them, to the death!
God belief is for people who don't want to live life on the universe's terms.
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Post by _Daniel Peterson »

Some Schmo wrote:Right, because it's a war between the god-fearing and the non-believers, isn't it? Us against them, to the death!

It must be time for recess.
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Post by _Tarski »

Some Schmo wrote:
Daniel Peterson wrote:
beastie wrote:
Which is pretty much what beastie would say about anybody who defends or advocates Christianity or even theism.

And this helps you... how?

It neither helps nor hurts me.

But it does suggest that CK should be careful in his choice of allies.


Right, because it's a war between the god-fearing and the non-believers, isn't it? Us against them, to the death!

Since you mention "fight to the death" it's time for a moment of Glenn Beck:
"I'm thinking about killing Michael Moore, and I'm wondering if I could kill him myself, or if I would need to hire somebody to do it. No, I think I could." — Glenn Beck


This is a man who has been given both the gift of the Holy Ghost and a national platform (behold the results).
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when believers want to give their claims more weight, they dress these claims up in scientific terms. When believers want to belittle atheism or secular humanism, they call it a "religion". -Beastie

yesterday's Mormon doctrine is today's Mormon folklore.-Buffalo
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Post by _Some Schmo »

Daniel Peterson wrote:
Some Schmo wrote:Right, because it's a war between the god-fearing and the non-believers, isn't it? Us against them, to the death!

It must be time for recess.

Why, you getting hungry for some milk and cookies?
God belief is for people who don't want to live life on the universe's terms.
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