The FAIR Conference in Parts: A Failed Documentary

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Mister Scratch wrote:---Thus, is it too far a stretch of the imagination to think that FARMS (by way of Bill Hamblin) may have funded this documentary?


I'd say it's more likely that Kerry's chickens may have gone without food for a day to fund it.
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I don't know the answer to that Mister Scratch, it remains a very real possibility though. I'd imagine, however, that if Dr. Hamblin did fund this film, he's furious right now and making phone calls as we speak to find out what the hell happened.

To be quite honest, I don't think Kerry realizes the opportunity he has here. Mormons want to see their heroes like this. It's an untapped market. And if Kerry were to work on his professionalism, he could probably make some serious cash off of this kind of work. A solid FAIR documentary might send those who control the purse strings to give him a call.

If Kerry were to play his cards right, he could very well become one of the most highly compensated figures of the apologetic front ever.

And I'm not even kidding.
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harmony wrote:
He's being sarcastic and his target is Kerry's videos.

Gad seems quite serious in his critique. If he is being sarcastic I hope he says so.

Gadianton wrote:Hmm. I don't think this is a very good objection. I wonder what you, by the way, thought of the "peer review" that your organization, FAIR, gave of "Mr. Meldrum's" well-meant apologetics? I think I have been far more generous here to an "enemy" than your blood-thirsty organization has been to it's own brothers and sisters in the gospel.

CFR on the blood-thirstiness of the review of Meldrum's work.

"Well-meaning" does not exempt a scholarly treatment on geography and DNA from a scholarly critique.

I wonder, what kind of grade do you think his documentary would get from a film class at BYU?

And why shouldn't Kerry, here, where the reputation of your organization and its "scholars" are at stake, be encouraged to do better?


Kerry's videos are his own. They are not productions of FAIR in any sense, and were never intended as such. Especially the one's from the FAIR conference, they are Kerry's own thing. They're not supposed to be some professional work or intended for a grade in a film class. To assert otherwise is ludicrous.
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Mister Scratch wrote:Here's a follow-up question:

---We know that Bill Hamblin is amongst the "monetarily compensated" FARMS apologists.
---We know that FARMS has a multi-million dollar budget at its disposal.
---Thus, is it too far a stretch of the imagination to think that FARMS (by way of Bill Hamblin) may have funded this documentary?



LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
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Jersey Girl wrote:Uh, harmony? The video series that he's referring to is akin to a "home video" of a visit to the FAIR Conference, not a "documentary". That'd be the same thing as me labeling your post as a "novel" and criticizing it from that standpoint.


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Gadianton wrote:I don't know the answer to that Mister Scratch, it remains a very real possibility though. I'd imagine, however, that if Dr. Hamblin did fund this film, he's furious right now and making phone calls as we speak to find out what the hell happened.

To be quite honest, I don't think Kerry realizes the opportunity he has here. Mormons want to see their heroes like this. It's an untapped market. And if Kerry were to work on his professionalism, he could probably make some serious cash off of this kind of work. A solid FAIR documentary might send those who control the purse strings to give him a call.

If Kerry were to play his cards right, he could very well become one of the most highly compensated figures of the apologetic front ever.

And I'm not even kidding.


Forget whatever else I have said here to you. I no longer take you seriously, but thank you for the laugh.
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one moment, of the well of life to taste-
The stars are setting and the caravan
starts for the dawn of nothing; Oh, make haste!

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LoP wrote:"Well-meaning" does not exempt a scholarly treatment on geography and DNA from a scholarly critique.


And what exempts Kerry's work from critique?

I'm surprised you think that it is silly that Shirts might have a real profit opportunity here. I guarantee you that the right kind of film effort to show the apologists in action is a money maker. I'd wager that even in the poor condition the film is now, he could still make money off of it. I think the market here is real.
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Gadianton wrote:
LoP wrote:"Well-meaning" does not exempt a scholarly treatment on geography and DNA from a scholarly critique.


And what exempts Kerry's work from critique?

I'm surprised you think that it is silly that Shirts might have a real profit opportunity here. I guarantee you that the right kind of film effort to show the apologists in action is a money maker. I'd wager that even in the poor condition the film is now, he could still make money off of it. I think the market here is real.


I agree with you, Gad. In fact, if the lovable pilgarlic know as LifeOnaPlate hadn't actually been at the conference, mugging for the camera, I bet he would have paid cash money for a boxed set of the documentary. Just the sight of all those warm, fuzzy books would alone be worth the expense.
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Mister Scratch wrote:We know that Bill Hamblin is amongst the "monetarily compensated" FARMS apologists.

We do?

That'll be news to him.

Mister Scratch wrote:Thus, is it too far a stretch of the imagination to think that FARMS (by way of Bill Hamblin) may have funded this documentary?

??????? !!!!!!!!! ??????????

"Funded" this "documentary"?

!!!!!!!!! ?????????? !!!!!!!!!!!
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Gadianton wrote:I don't know the answer to that Mister Scratch, it remains a very real possibility though. I'd imagine, however, that if Dr. Hamblin did fund this film, he's furious right now and making phone calls as we speak to find out what the hell happened.

Good grief. What a fool I've been. I can't believe that the truth took so long to dawn on me:

Dr. Shades is a psychiatrist, and this message board is a therapeutic tool for the inmates of his clinic. I recognize that some of the posters here are probably orderlies and therapists, but some of them -- it's all so plain to me now! -- are indisputably patients in an asylum.

Gadianton wrote:To be quite honest, I don't think Kerry realizes the opportunity he has here. Mormons want to see their heroes like this. It's an untapped market. And if Kerry were to work on his professionalism, he could probably make some serious cash off of this kind of work. A solid FAIR documentary might send those who control the purse strings to give him a call.

!!!!!!

Gadianton wrote:If Kerry were to play his cards right, he could very well become one of the most highly compensated figures of the apologetic front ever.

I'd imagine that he already is.

Gadianton wrote:And I'm not even kidding.

That's unspeakably sad.
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