Scratch, DCP, and the IRS

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_Rollo Tomasi
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Re: Scratch, DCP, and the IRS

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Jason Bourne wrote:
Rollo Tomasi wrote:No connection is made to BYU (unlike other board members and officers).

It does not have to be. Just because it was for others is not a cause and affect.

Neither you nor I knows why the Form 990 preparer chose to use the BYU address for most the board members, but the home address of DCP. For all we know, it could have been his/her way of designating who was paid directly and who was paid indirectly via BYU.

Whether FARMS paid the $20,400 directly to DCP or indirectly to DCP (through BYU) is immaterial, in my opinion. FARMS, in fact, paid $20,400 to DCP for his services as "Board Chair."

Wrong. It could have been paid to BYU for his time and NOT paid to DCP.

I disagree. Whether FARMS paid it directly to DCP, or indirectly through BYU, DCP was paid for his time and services as board chair of FARMS (unless, of course, BYU docked DCP's pay for the time he was at FARMS, which I don't believe DCP has claimed here).
"Moving beyond apologist persuasion, LDS polemicists furiously (and often fraudulently) attack any non-traditional view of Mormonism. They don't mince words -- they mince the truth."

-- Mike Quinn, writing of the FARMSboys, in "Early Mormonism and the Magic World View," p. x (Rev. ed. 1998)
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Re: Scratch, DCP, and the IRS

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Bishop Busybody wrote:[Rollo Tomasi], though obsessively persistent (in the manner common to chronic Scartcholeptics), is persistently wrong.

I was never paid $20,000.00 per year, nor anything even close to that figure, for my services as chairman of the FARMS board.


FARMS's 1998 Form 990 says otherwise, big guy


No not necessarily.
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Mini-Scartch, though obsessively persistent (in the manner common to chronic Scartcholeptics), is persistently wrong.

I was never paid $20,000.00 per year, nor anything even close to that figure, for my services as chairman of the FARMS board.
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Bishop Busybody wrote:[Rollo Tomasi], though obsessively persistent (in the manner common to chronic Scartcholeptics), is persistently wrong.

I was never paid $20,000.00 per year, nor anything even close to that figure, for my services as chairman of the FARMS board.

FARMS's 1998 Form 990 suggests otherwise, big guy.
"Moving beyond apologist persuasion, LDS polemicists furiously (and often fraudulently) attack any non-traditional view of Mormonism. They don't mince words -- they mince the truth."

-- Mike Quinn, writing of the FARMSboys, in "Early Mormonism and the Magic World View," p. x (Rev. ed. 1998)
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Re: Scratch, DCP, and the IRS

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Jason Bourne wrote:No not necessarily.
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Daniel Peterson wrote:
Jason Bourne wrote:No not necessarily.

Hence my use of the word "suggests." Nevertheless, the Form 990 puts the kibosh on the continued claim of poverty when it comes to your apologia.
"Moving beyond apologist persuasion, LDS polemicists furiously (and often fraudulently) attack any non-traditional view of Mormonism. They don't mince words -- they mince the truth."

-- Mike Quinn, writing of the FARMSboys, in "Early Mormonism and the Magic World View," p. x (Rev. ed. 1998)
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Mini-Scartch wrote:Nevertheless, the Form 990 puts the kibosh on the continued claim of poverty when it comes to your apologia.

What "claim of poverty"?

Please spell out what you mean.
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Re: Scratch, DCP, and the IRS

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Bishop Busybody wrote:
Rollo Tomasi wrote:Nevertheless, the Form 990 puts the kibosh on the continued claim of poverty when it comes to your apologia.

What "claim of poverty"?

Please spell out what you mean.

You've claimed in the past that you receive little or nothing for your apologia; the FARMS 1998 Form 990 suggests this hasn't always been the case.
"Moving beyond apologist persuasion, LDS polemicists furiously (and often fraudulently) attack any non-traditional view of Mormonism. They don't mince words -- they mince the truth."

-- Mike Quinn, writing of the FARMSboys, in "Early Mormonism and the Magic World View," p. x (Rev. ed. 1998)
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Mini-Scartch wrote:You've claimed in the past that you receive little or nothing for your apologia; the FARMS 1998 Form 990 suggests this hasn't always been the case.

Ah. I figured as much.

Well then, as usual, you're mistaken.

I typically receive nothing for my "apologia." Occasionally, I've received $50 or $100 in royalties for something or other.

I've told you all this before. You simply refuse to believe what I say.

I never received $20,000.00 as an annual fee for serving as chairman of the board. In any case, my service as chairman of the board did not involve writing or speaking "apologia."

We've been over all this many times before. You simply choose, Scartcholeptically, to believe that I'm a liar.

I figured it was just the same old same old. And, of course, it was. As, very likely, it always will be.
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Re: Scratch, DCP, and the IRS

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Bishop Busybody wrote:I never received $20,000.00 as an annual fee for serving as chairman of the board.

You did in 1998.

Bishop Busybody wrote:In any case, my service as chairman of the board did not involve writing or speaking "apologia."

Sure ....
"Moving beyond apologist persuasion, LDS polemicists furiously (and often fraudulently) attack any non-traditional view of Mormonism. They don't mince words -- they mince the truth."

-- Mike Quinn, writing of the FARMSboys, in "Early Mormonism and the Magic World View," p. x (Rev. ed. 1998)
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