Mormonism is Now the Most Retrograde Religion in America.

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Re: Mormonism is Now the Most Retrograde Religion in America.

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After having digested some of the ensuing posts on this thread, I continue to feel extremely gratified that the Almighty God, the Creator of this earth, its system, and many other similar systems throughout the galaxy, has designated a “day of vengeance” when he will finally administer appropriate justice to the enemies of His people and His words. He has long promised that this day would come, and yet He continues to be mocked by those who have chosen to reject Him and have convinced themselves (and do their utmost to convince others) that He is nothing but a myth concocted by other men – all with the intent to deceive and despoil. We see some of the most extreme examples of this mockery on this and other similar message boards. In fact, the relatively new phenomenon of internet-based public forums has created a venue for the unprecedented gathering of those who fulfil on a daily basis the prophecies of the scriptures, including this one:

There shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts, and saying, where is the promise of his coming? For since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.

Such people have consciously chosen to remove the very concept of God from their walk of life. They live without God in the world, and almost invariably they reach the conclusion that religious adherents (especially of the LDS variety) constitute an impediment to the progress of civilization.

Perhaps some wonder why God, given his greatness, would even take notice of such things, let alone be offended enough by them to bring to bear his incomparable power in a “shock and awe” assault upon them – all in the name of exacting retribution for their offenses against Him and His people throughout all of human history. Is not a “God of Love” above such “primitive” emotions as anger and vengeance?

Why then would the embodiment of spiritual refinements be inclined to ‘trample them in my fury … tread upon them in mine anger’ and literally soak himself and his clothing in the blood of those he slaughters in that day?

Because you deserve it.

Because He must demonstrate to His people that His promise to fight their battles is one He will keep. Because He intends to permanently separate you from those whom He has chosen to bear His name – and who have repeatedly demonstrated their willingness to take His name upon them. You will no longer be permitted to dwell among Him and them, worlds without end. And it will be by your own choice. You have chosen to reject God, to live without Him in the world, and to persecute the Saints and fight against Him and them.

You were given the opportunity to hear His word and make it the treasure of your souls, and it apparently did nothing for you. You have concluded that His words are nothing but the vain ramblings of men. You don’t know His voice, or if you do, you have chosen to not listen to it. One day, in the not so distant future, you will come to fully appreciate the gravity of your error.

Then if your hearts have been hardened, yea, if you have hardened your hearts against the word, insomuch that it has not been found in you, then will your state be awful, for then you shall be condemned.

For your words will condemn you, yea, all your works will condemn you; you shall not be found spotless; and your thoughts will also condemn you; and in this awful state you shall not dare to look up to your God; and you would fain be glad if you could command the rocks and the mountains to fall upon you to hide you from his presence.
I want to express my sincere thanks to the Mormon Discussions message board for helping me to see and understand the true nature of apostasy.
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Wheat wrote: You will no longer be permitted to dwell among Him and them, worlds without end. And it will be by your own choice. You have chosen to reject God, to live without Him in the world, and to persecute the Saints and fight against Him and them.
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Ray A wrote:And now a commercial break and a word from God's sponsor:

Wheat wrote: You will no longer be permitted to dwell among Him and them, worlds without end. And it will be by your own choice. You have chosen to reject God, to live without Him in the world, and to persecute the Saints and fight against Him and them.

Too bad your ears have grown so dull of hearing ...

Reminds me of another place and time:

And he heard a voice from heaven, saying: Enoch, my son, prophesy unto this people, and say unto them—Repent, for thus saith the Lord: I am angry with this people, and my fierce anger is kindled against them; for their hearts have waxed hard, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes cannot see afar off ...
I want to express my sincere thanks to the Mormon Discussions message board for helping me to see and understand the true nature of apostasy.
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antishock8 wrote:Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz ..............


Who damned changed my post?
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Wheat wrote:After having digested some of the ensuing posts on this thread, I continue to feel extremely gratified that the Almighty God, the Creator of this earth, its system, and many other similar systems throughout the galaxy, has designated a “day of vengeance” when he will finally administer appropriate justice to the enemies of His people and His words.


Boy, aren't you in for a surprise!
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Wheat wrote:...
I continue to feel extremely gratified that the Almighty God, the Creator of this earth, its system, and many other similar systems throughout the galaxy, has designated a “day of vengeance”
...
Because you deserve it.
...
For your words will condemn you, yea
...

Good sermon, Wheat. Brigham Young could have preached it.
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Trevor wrote:
Wheat wrote:After having digested some of the ensuing posts on this thread, I continue to feel extremely gratified that the Almighty God, the Creator of this earth, its system, and many other similar systems throughout the galaxy, has designated a “day of vengeance” when he will finally administer appropriate justice to the enemies of His people and His words.


Boy, aren't you in for a surprise!

One of us is. That much is certain.

Good sermon, Wheat. Brigham Young could have preached it.

With a bowie knife in his hand, no doubt. Thanks for the compliment, ludwig. I really do appreciate it.
I want to express my sincere thanks to the Mormon Discussions message board for helping me to see and understand the true nature of apostasy.
_Ray A

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Wheat wrote:With a bowie knife in his hand, no doubt.


You are living modern proof that that the mentality of the Mountain Meadows Massacre was not "good people doing something temporarily evil and out of character". In 2008, you are evidence that the spirit of the Danites still exists, and I have no doubt you would have carried out Brigham Young's orders to massacre people.
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Wheat wrote:After having digested some of the ensuing posts on this thread, I continue to feel extremely gratified that the Almighty God, the Creator of this earth, its system, and many other similar systems throughout the galaxy, has designated a “day of vengeance” when he will finally administer appropriate justice to the enemies of His people and His words. He has long promised that this day would come, and yet He continues to be mocked by those who have chosen to reject Him and have convinced themselves (and do their utmost to convince others) that He is nothing but a myth concocted by other men – all with the intent to deceive and despoil. We see some of the most extreme examples of this mockery on this and other similar message boards. In fact, the relatively new phenomenon of internet-based public forums has created a venue for the unprecedented gathering of those who fulfil on a daily basis the prophecies of the scriptures, including this one:

There shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts, and saying, where is the promise of his coming? For since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.

Such people have consciously chosen to remove the very concept of God from their walk of life. They live without God in the world, and almost invariably they reach the conclusion that religious adherents (especially of the LDS variety) constitute an impediment to the progress of civilization.

Perhaps some wonder why God, given his greatness, would even take notice of such things, let alone be offended enough by them to bring to bear his incomparable power in a “shock and awe” assault upon them – all in the name of exacting retribution for their offenses against Him and His people throughout all of human history. Is not a “God of Love” above such “primitive” emotions as anger and vengeance?

Why then would the embodiment of spiritual refinements be inclined to ‘trample them in my fury … tread upon them in mine anger’ and literally soak himself and his clothing in the blood of those he slaughters in that day?

Because you deserve it.

Because He must demonstrate to His people that His promise to fight their battles is one He will keep. Because He intends to permanently separate you from those whom He has chosen to bear His name – and who have repeatedly demonstrated their willingness to take His name upon them. You will no longer be permitted to dwell among Him and them, worlds without end. And it will be by your own choice. You have chosen to reject God, to live without Him in the world, and to persecute the Saints and fight against Him and them.

You were given the opportunity to hear His word and make it the treasure of your souls, and it apparently did nothing for you. You have concluded that His words are nothing but the vain ramblings of men. You don’t know His voice, or if you do, you have chosen to not listen to it. One day, in the not so distant future, you will come to fully appreciate the gravity of your error.

Then if your hearts have been hardened, yea, if you have hardened your hearts against the word, insomuch that it has not been found in you, then will your state be awful, for then you shall be condemned.

For your words will condemn you, yea, all your works will condemn you; you shall not be found spotless; and your thoughts will also condemn you; and in this awful state you shall not dare to look up to your God; and you would fain be glad if you could command the rocks and the mountains to fall upon you to hide you from his presence.


And for what exactly will your god be seeking revenge on your behalf?

Since you believe so fervently that only your god is the real one, and only your practices and your god can bring joy, you seethe when you see others enjoying a fulfilled life outside of your little dominion. The happiness of others is persecution to you, since it falsifies your claim to exclusive truth. When a non-mormon laughs at life, you can only percieve it as scoffing. Your only solace is to imagine your 'tormentors' being tortured eternally by your (and their) 'heavenly father'.

Mormonism can only lead to jealousy, bitterness, resentment and hate. Compounded by continual and intense fear that someone you love (or control) will cross the line and become someone you must hate. The only solution is real or psychological isolation from the world, and for parents to have complete physical and psychological control over their children, mirroring the relationship between the bretheren and the flock.

sick sick sick
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