Ray's comments to Wade

[_wenglund]

Why does Ray A get to post a personal attack in his signature? in my opinion this indicates Ray A approves of personal attacks perhaps in my opinion.

If I understand Ray's and harmony's "rationale", you aren't even permitted to ask that question since it talks about the "person" (Ray A) rather than the subject (which also is Ray A, but he and harmony don't seem to get that).

Thanks, -Wade Englund-

[_Roger Morrison]

Questions: Is Roger put into the "Ignore mode" here? Can the term "Gentlemen" be expanded/understood to include more than Ray & Runtu in this thread?

My apologies Roger. I didn't ignore you. Twice now I have carefully read what you had said, and I appreciated the welcome back as well as your remarks about both camps having more in common than some may think.

Thanks, -Wade Englund-

Thanks for your response Wade. Much appreciated. Take care, Roger

[_LifeOnaPlate]

Why does Ray A get to post a personal attack in his signature? in my opinion this indicates Ray A approves of personal attacks perhaps in my opinion.

If I understand Ray's and harmony's "rationale", you aren't even permitted to ask that question since it talks about the "person" (Ray A) rather than the subject (which also is Ray A, but he and harmony don't seem to get that).

Thanks, -Wade Englund-

Oops!

[_Ray A]

If I understand Ray's and harmony's "rationale", you aren't even permitted to ask that question since it talks about the "person" (Ray A) rather than the subject (which also is Ray A, but he and harmony don't seem to get that).

Thanks, -Wade Englund-

Wade, let me repeat, what is the subject of this thread? Have you addressed it? The subject is "Ray's comments to Wade" on another thread. Have you addressed them yet? If you want to interview me and ask all of these personal questions, then go ahead, but not on this thread.

by the way, I'll be on here today only about another hour or so because I have work to do.

[Gadianton]

If I understand Ray's and harmony's "rationale", you aren't even permitted to ask that question since it talks about the "person" (Ray A) rather than the subject (which also is Ray A, but he and harmony don't seem to get that).

Thanks, -Wade Englund-

Wade, let me repeat, what is the subject of this thread? Have you addressed it? The subject is "Ray's comments to Wade" on another thread. Have you addressed them yet? If you want to interview me and ask all of these personal questions, then go ahead, but not on this thread.

by the way, I'll be on here today only about another hour or so because I have work to do.

Ray,

My primary purpose in participating here is not to argue differences of opinion or to try and change people's minds--though from time to time I will offer my own perspective for consideration.

If you have decided that the Book of Mormon is non-historical, then that is your business, and it is of little concern or interest to me, and I am happy to wish you well in your new faith journey. And, the same is true for any difference in belief that you and I may have. I, personally, have a very high tolerance for differences of opinions.

However, what does interest and concern me are corrosive emotions or sentiments that you and others may feel towards me, my faih, and other members of my faith--in large part, I believe, because of an alarming level of intolerance of our opposing views.

My desire is for all of us to succeed in meeting the basic human need to progress to become the best people possible and gain a fulness of joy and love one with another.

This won't happen to the extent that we end up debating fruitlessly divergent opinions, or even more so if one or the other or both of us are burdened with animosity, contempt, prejudice, etc.

I see it as in both of our interest (but your's in particular) to work through your animus towards LDS, and foster an environment of mutual respect and kindness as well as reorient our focus in fulfilling the basic human need previously mentioned.

I'm not proposing psycho-analysis. Rather, I am suggesting common-sensically working out heart-to-heart and mind-to-mind your toxic sentiments and move on to a better and more productive life--that is, assuming that is what you want for yourself. It's your choice. At your leisure, please let me know.

Thanks, -Wade Englund-

[_Trevor]

I'm not proposing psycho-analysis. Rather, I am suggesting working out heart-to-heart and mind-to-mind, when you and I have the time, your toxic sentiments and move on to a better and more productive life--that is, assuming that is what you want for yourself. It's your choice. Please let me know.

Talk about presumption. Like you are just the guy to diagnose and help others out with this. LOL.

[_wenglund]

Talk about presumption. Like you are just the guy to diagnose and help others out with this. LOL.

Are you presuming (ironically?) it takes an expert with an advanced degree to detect and work out interpersonal animus?

I don't know about you, but I and others have been successfully doing this since we were children.

Thanks, -Wade Englund-

[_harmony]

Rather, I am suggesting common-sensically working out heart-to-heart and mind-to-mind your toxic sentiments and move on to a better and more productive life--

What about your toxic sentiments? Are you going to be working on that? And the first step towards working on anything is admitting you have a problem.

I see no sense in a one-way street.

[Gadianton]

Rather, I am suggesting common-sensically working out heart-to-heart and mind-to-mind your toxic sentiments and move on to a better and more productive life--

What about your toxic sentiments? Are you going to be working on that? And the first step towards working on anything is admitting you have a problem.

I see no sense in a one-way street.

If I have toxic sentiments, then it is very much in my interest to work them out. I am not aware of any, myself, but I am open to constructive feedback.

So, if you would like to explain and evince what you see as a toxic sentiment held by me, I would be pleased to thoughtfully consider them.

Thanks, -Wade Englund-

[_Trevor]

Are you presuming (ironically?) it takes an expert with an advanced degree to detect and work out interpersonal animus?

No. Since when was this discussion restricted to interpersonal matters?

I don't know about you, but I and others have been successfully doing this since we were children.

I would have no idea how successful you have been. I am not certain you know either.