What do BHO fans think about him now.

[_richardMdBorn]

Obama had several things going for him:

1) Media more in the tank for him than has ever been the case for a presidential candidate - his many scandals were yawned at the mainstream media

I don't think it was the media that yawned; it was the people. Which substantive "scandals" did you feel were ignored? Are you also complaining about McCain's scandals that were ignored? (yes, he was cheating on his wife).[quote]I live in the Chicago area and local columnists like John Kass have done a much better job of covering BHO than the mainstream media. here are a couple of examples of scandals which were barely covered:

1) The Nadhmi Auchi deal when BHO bought his house with Tony Rezko
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/w ... 433485.ece
What did BHO promise in return for the $3.5M for Rezko

2) The Yesse Yehudah deal
http://hillbuzz.wordpress.com/2008/12/1 ... h-in-2001/

A guy who ran against Obama and nine of his supporters (this article says five but I’ve heard it’s ten) suddenly decide to give $1K each to BHO’s campaign. Then they get a grant for $75K. How many other deals are there like this one? Instead of investigating, the mainstream media spent its time attacking Sarah Palin.

3) The Rev. Wright case was covered but BHO was clealy lying through his teeth. One local speculation is that BHO at one time was planning to run for mayor in which case the racist Wright would not be a problem. See for example
http://www.thedenenbergreport.org/artic ... index=1361

[_richardMdBorn]

Well, for a president who has only been in office 23 days I think he is doing a great job!

I do not agree with everything he has done but for the most part he is living up to the promises he made during his campaign.

He has several republicans in his cabinet, making sincere efforts toward bipartisanship, and working hard in what may be one of our countries most difficult times in the last hundred years.

~td~

Yes, it's really bipartisan when the Republicans are given little of no input into the Stimulus package. The bill is pork for the teachers unions and Acorn. An example of his eloquent bipartisanship is:

After listening to a critique of the nearly nine hundred billion dollars stimulus package from Republican Congressional leaders, along with some helpful suggestions on how to fix it, President Barack Obama had a two word answer.

"I won," President Obama said, indicating why the Republicans were not going to have any significant input into the bill.

http://www.associatedcontent.com/articl ... html?cat=9

I guess when you don't have good arguments you say I won. BHO off the teleprompter is pretty pathetic.

[_truth dancer]

Hi Richard,

I'm not saying I agree with everything President Obama has done.

What I do know is that we are in an extraordinarily difficult time and I doubt anything is going to solve our problems next week, or next year.

The mess we are in, (thank you Bush and his cronies), is one that is unlike anything we have ever faced before. The world is more complex and interconnected than ever in our history, and I don't think anyone can truly predict with much accuracy how any scenario will play out.

What I do believe is that Obama has a genuine desire to get our economy healthy again. I think he, unlike some, see how the future is unfolding regarding the globalization ahead.

In terms of his win... I think most of the country realizes that we can't keep going in the downward spiral into which we were headed any longer. Most of the country wants a new direction. And rightly so in my opinion.

I do not know how it will all play out but it is clear to me we need a change and a big one.

What I do know is that you can't keep doing the same thing and expecting different results.

Again, I think we are in a really messy, seriously confusing time and I don't know how it will all play out but I think our leaders are trying their best.

~td~

[_Yoda]

Obama, like Reagan, is a Teflon president. I suspect that his approval rating will remain high unless the economy takes a nosedive which is unrecoverable, or we end up in a 9-11 situation that proves to be more tragic than the last.

Hello Liz,

in my opinion, Ronald Reagan was the Greatest U.S. President from within the 20th Century.

I agree with you 1000%!!!

To be honest, I think that is part of the reason that Obama was elected. The American people have been craving a patriot with that type of charisma since Reagan left office. Some felt that Clinton had charisma. He didn't really do much for me. I always felt that he was being insincere.

With Obama, I think that he sincerely wants what is best for the country and is true to his ideals.

[_Bond James Bond]

Better than FDR? Psshhh. I think you folks lived during the good 80s years and that makes you think kindly of ole Ronnie. I won't deny that he's probably one of the Top 3-5 of the 20th century [I think both Roosevelts were at least as good] but I have a feeling that as the years pass people will realize that he isn't the "greatest President ever" as I've seen in some polls. [Not that you're saying that, but quite a few Republicans seem to have a cult of personality going on around Reagan.]

I wonder what the perception of Reagan will be in another 25 years when enough time is passed that we can adequately begin to gage his administration.

[_Yoda]

Better than FDR? Psshhh. I think you folks lived during the good 80s years and that makes you think kindly of ole Ronnie. I won't deny that he's probably one of the Top 3-5 of the 20th century [I think both Roosevelts were at least as good] but I have a feeling that as the years pass people will realize that he isn't the "greatest President ever" as I've seen in some polls. [Not that you're saying that, but quite a few Republicans seem to have a cult of personality going on around Reagan.]

I wonder what the perception of Reagan will be in another 25 years when enough time is passed that we can adequately begin to gage his administration.

You're right. I most certainly did "live during the 80's". I'm very proud to say that President Reagan was the first president I had the privilege to vote for.

This moment still gives me chills:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xK30k2WT ... re=related

Here are some interesting comments by President Obama regarding President Reagan:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XaoYD7iZG9w&NR=1

How can you not love this man? This was one of my favorite debate moments:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LoPu1UIB ... re=related

[_richardMdBorn]

Hi TD,

The mess we are in, (thank you Bush and his cronies), is one that is unlike anything we have ever faced before. The world is more complex and interconnected than ever in our history, and I don't think anyone can truly predict with much accuracy how any scenario will play out.

The pressure from the Democrats on banks to make loans to certain minorities without taking their creditworthiness into account has played a major role in the housing crisis. Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, other Democrat favorites, have also played a negative role..

What I do believe is that Obama has a genuine desire to get our economy healthy again. I think he, unlike some, see how the future is unfolding regarding the globalization ahead.

Prior to the great Depression, panics in this country were of relatively short duration: 1837, 1893, 1907, 1920. The GD of 1929-1941 resulted in heavy government intervention by both Hoover and Roosevelt. And guess what, they did not solve the problem; they exacerbated it. The cure to deficit spending is not massive more spending. I wish that BHO had read books like Henry Hazlitt’s Economics in One Lesson. The solution is closer to being found in the Austrian economists than in the Keynesians.

[_richardMdBorn]

Here's a good Reagan clip:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRUbwnkE ... re=related

[_Yoda]

Here's a good Reagan clip:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRUbwnkE ... re=related

LOL! Classic!

[_truth dancer]

Hi Richard,

I would argue that we are in uncharted territory. The world is much, MUCH different than ever before and our problems enormously more complex.

We can search the history books and while they may provide insight, they do not give us the answers for this current situation in which we find ourselves.

The best economists in the world are still guessing.

In my opinion, we have put band-aids on some serious problems and are now in a position where we MUST actually fix the problems in order to survive.


~td~