MAD Poster: DCP Delivers Talk that is not "Relevant"

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I love reading Scratches highlights from the MAaD board, so much more fun than wading through the board myself.

Anyway, Daniel, your presentation sounds really interesting, is there a youtube or online version?
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Hermes--a moderator wrote:here's some evidence that people can get away once in a while with lame cracks at daniel petersen. had you tossed this snark out at someone else you would've earned two days suspension from the board. daniel can handle himself, though, and we'll save your supsension for another day.~hermes

I had to laugh that the mod misspells DCP's last name. Of course, s/he typos "supsension" too. I'm just being picky but really it's a chuckle. (Proofreading is a large part of my current work).
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Gadianton wrote:
DCP wrote:(probably still some years off, as this represents only a portion of a much longer and more complex argument)


I'm wondering if there is a bit of cloak and dagger going on here. At any rate, I believe I can see in part, the grand design behind this new project.


Please reveal the grand nefarious design, o most revered Prophet of Scratchism. Though for now you only prophesy in part, give us thy wisdom and show us how this academic project was forged to beguile us away from the true faith.
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Daniel Peterson wrote:I, of course, have no illusions that I can "prove" the resurrection of Christ.


I accept of your admission.
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DCP -

Do you think you can offer sufficient historical evidence of Jesus's ressurection to compel reasonable belief? That is a common meaning of "proof" but by "prove" I think you mean provide deductive certainty. What about establish it being as plausible as the contrary?

I'm sure I could find out elsewhere, but I am a bit curious if you are arguing in a manner similar to WLC et. al. as well.

e.g.

http://www.leaderu.com/offices/billcrai ... rical.html
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Miss Taken wrote:Daniel, did you discuss the Talpiot find at all?

No.

Mister Scratch wrote:
Daniel Peterson wrote:There was no charge.

Well, that's interesting. Are you sure that there were no "donation collections," or anything of that nature?

Yes.

Mister Scratch wrote:Did Ed Snow come along for this trip, and did he perhaps solicit contributions without you knowing?

No, and no.

And no FARMS symposium has ever charged a fee.

Gadianton wrote:I'm wondering if there is a bit of cloak and dagger going on here.

You wouldn't be a Scratch if you didn't.

Danna wrote:Anyway, Daniel, your presentation sounds really interesting, is there a youtube or online version?

No.

EAllusion wrote:DCP -Do you think you can offer sufficient historical evidence of Jesus's ressurection to compel reasonable belief?

I wouldn't use the word compel, but I do think that I can show that belief in the resurrection of Jesus is reasonable.

EAllusion wrote:I am a bit curious if you are arguing in a manner similar to WLC et. al. as well.

There was nothing from William Lane Craig in my remarks on Friday night, but I do find his arguments significant.
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Daniel Peterson wrote:
EAllusion wrote:DCP -Do you think you can offer sufficient historical evidence of Jesus's ressurection to compel reasonable belief?

I wouldn't use the word compel, but I do think that I can show that belief in the resurrection of Jesus is reasonable.


I asked you about your motives in a previous post, but this seems to basically cover what I was asking. Based on this, it seems that your project is aimed at helping people to feel better about their belief in the resurrection. Or, to view it from another angle, you are looking to convince non-believers that there is nothing silly about thinking that Jesus rose from the dead. Would you say that this is a reasonably accurate characterization of what you're up to?

Also: I'm disappointed that you haven't been back to respond on the "Mormon Art" thread. I have been looking forward to your substantive replies on that subject. You haven't thrown in the towel on that, have you?
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Mister Scratch wrote:You haven't thrown in the towel on that, have you?

Are you acknowledging that you saw that thread as simply yet another adversarial Scratch vs. Peterson match-up?
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Daniel Peterson wrote:
Mister Scratch wrote:You haven't thrown in the towel on that, have you?

Are you acknowledging that you saw that thread as simply yet another adversarial Scratch vs. Peterson match-up?


No. Feel free to actually respond to my questions, by the way.
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I feel free.

I'm just not interested.
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