JohnStuartMill wrote:I don't know that the Church actively deceives its members. But it is certainly not performing the proper standard of care when the people it sends to educate others about Mormonism aren't aware of its most basic black eyes.
And I will bet a dollar that many Utah young missionaries have the BY discourses in their parent's home library. They can just pick up the book and read.
I intend to lay a foundation that will revolutionize the whole world. Joseph Smith We are “to feed the hungry, to clothe the naked, to provide for the widow, to dry up the tear of the orphan, to comfort the afflicted, whether in this church, or in any other, or in no church at all…” Joseph Smith
JohnStuartMill wrote:I don't know that the Church actively deceives its members. But it is certainly not performing the proper standard of care when the people it sends to educate others about Mormonism aren't aware of its most basic black eyes.
And I will bet a dollar that many Utah young missionaries have the BY discourses in their parent's home library. They can just pick up the book and read.
Ha!!!!!!!! that's a good one.
And crawling on the planet's face Some insects called the human race Lost in time And lost in space...and meaning
WjExMo wrote: Yep. We left to sin, not because we found out Mormonism was dishonest with us concerning the reality of its history.
Where has it been dishonest about its history? Has the LDS church denied that Joseph Smith was a polygamist? Or BY? Has the LDS church denied such facts? Where is the lie?
I intend to lay a foundation that will revolutionize the whole world. Joseph Smith We are “to feed the hungry, to clothe the naked, to provide for the widow, to dry up the tear of the orphan, to comfort the afflicted, whether in this church, or in any other, or in no church at all…” Joseph Smith
Ha....but true. I remember seeing it in many people's libraries.
I intend to lay a foundation that will revolutionize the whole world. Joseph Smith We are “to feed the hungry, to clothe the naked, to provide for the widow, to dry up the tear of the orphan, to comfort the afflicted, whether in this church, or in any other, or in no church at all…” Joseph Smith
JohnStuartMill wrote:I don't know that the Church actively deceives its members. But it is certainly not performing the proper standard of care when the people it sends to educate others about Mormonism aren't aware of its most basic black eyes.
And I will bet a dollar that many Utah young missionaries have the BY discourses in their parent's home library. They can just pick up the book and read.
And what of the missionaries whose parents don't have the Discourses in their libraries? It's all their fault that they didn't look up the truth claims of the Church on the Internet?
This is just idiotic.
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And I do not want to rain on anyone's parade, but the three guys informed the young missionary that she could go to the church sponsored site to find out the information about Joseph Smith's wives.
I intend to lay a foundation that will revolutionize the whole world. Joseph Smith We are “to feed the hungry, to clothe the naked, to provide for the widow, to dry up the tear of the orphan, to comfort the afflicted, whether in this church, or in any other, or in no church at all…” Joseph Smith
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I intend to lay a foundation that will revolutionize the whole world. Joseph Smith We are “to feed the hungry, to clothe the naked, to provide for the widow, to dry up the tear of the orphan, to comfort the afflicted, whether in this church, or in any other, or in no church at all…” Joseph Smith
why me wrote:And I do not want to rain on anyone's parade, but the three guys informed the young missionary that she could go to the church sponsored site to find out the information about Joseph Smith's wives.
why me wrote:And I do not want to rain on anyone's parade, but the three guys informed the young missionary that she could go to the church sponsored site to find out the information about Joseph Smith's wives.
Oh no, they considered a source their audience would think of as credible! What a bunch of, umm... good rhetoricians?
I don't know but this has happened before. The church hides the fact that Joseph Smith had other wives than emma according to the critics and yet, it can be found on a church sponsored site.
I intend to lay a foundation that will revolutionize the whole world. Joseph Smith We are “to feed the hungry, to clothe the naked, to provide for the widow, to dry up the tear of the orphan, to comfort the afflicted, whether in this church, or in any other, or in no church at all…” Joseph Smith
why me wrote:They should buy it. Just order it from deseret books. It comes in 26 volumes. Of course it contains more than just what BY said.
I had all 26 volumes in hardcopy but dispensed with them after moving house seven times. They are now online anyway, so no real need to buy them.
The Church only selectively quotes from them and much of their content is controversial. In one instance Brigham Young teaches that men live in the sun. Edited versions have been more popular with Church members.
Just order it from deseret books. It comes in 26 volumes. Of course it contains more than just what BY said.
Edited versions have been more popular with Church members.