Please come to the source, I will answer all your questions.

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Re: Please come to the source, I will answer all your questions.

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RobertPitsor wrote:All I want is the promises made. That can be done without a trial. It would take a long time for a trail. Plus finding a lawyer....


If you're expecting the church to honor a promise that was not made in public with witnesses, you're probably going to wait a long time. With that promise and a dollar, you can buy a hamburger on the dollar menu. In other words, I'm sorry, but that promise is worthless.

Any lawyer worth his/her salt would take this on, pro bono, or at least on contingency.
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RobertPitsor wrote:Instead of being a mentor to others, like I have been and am. I so would love to have one for myself.


What would you like a mentor to do for you, Robert?
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RobertPitsor wrote:While reading you're post, inside I was just sobbing. So many emotions were present and still are. Some days it feels like it all happened moments ago. Other days it is like.... well the best I can think of is getting shot in the knee, you know how not why. A stray bullet, an aimed shot, carelessness you just never know.



I think the only "why" anyone could think of is that people who brutally harm children are mentally ill.

There is certainly nothing that you did, or could have done, to "deserve" it.
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You don't have to answer this (or any other question I ask), if you'd rather not.
You can just say "I'll pass on that question".

RobertPitsor wrote:Thanks for the offer of letting the "others" post. As I have been warned already about safety this may not be a safe enviroment for that, nor a therapudic enviroment. "They" have more details and I have no control over what would be said. So, to err on safety it will just me.



I agree that they shouldn't post here, especially if what you need is control in telling your story.

1. Have your alters spoken to the therapists?

2. Have you ever heard recordings of them speaking to the therapists?

3. Do they have anything to say that has been of help to you in trying to process all of the things that happened to you?

4. Can you keep them from communicating? Can you make them "stay in"?
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Harmony,
I have been very quiet about the last legal dealings with the Church. I will say only this, the church lawyers are extreamly unscrupulous. Any law suit brought and won against the church is held up for as long as possible with appeals. I did not know this going into my case, but I learned a lot along the way. The best outcome for most who seek litigation is setlement. I am not one of those. The legal bills that were posted about need to be corrected, they well exceeded 20,000, yet they ended up losing those fees along with my case because of the activities spoken above. Sorry, I cannot go into detail on that as it may become a legal point of referance.


harmony wrote:
RobertPitsor wrote:All I want is the promises made. That can be done without a trial. It would take a long time for a trail. Plus finding a lawyer....


If you're expecting the church to honor a promise that was not made in public with witnesses, you're probably going to wait a long time. With that promise and a dollar, you can buy a hamburger on the dollar menu. In other words, I'm sorry, but that promise is worthless.

Any lawyer worth his/her salt would take this on, pro bono, or at least on contingency.
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A mentor, a guide, solice, someone to confide in, trust, learn, acceptance, shared experience, hmmm maybe I am lonely.

Jersey Girl wrote:
RobertPitsor wrote:Instead of being a mentor to others, like I have been and am. I so would love to have one for myself.


What would you like a mentor to do for you, Robert?
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Question 1. Yes, some are even featured in a training DVD for other therapists.
Question 2. Yes, I have. It is very un-nerving. It is not my voice or my actions.
Question 3. Yes, the ones created to escape Paul, yet memories of what happened have come back without an alter.
Question 4. We have an agreement. Yet if I am triggered who knows who you will get.

I will pass on the question of how many.


Jersey Girl wrote:You don't have to answer this (or any other question I ask), if you'd rather not.
You can just say "I'll pass on that question".

RobertPitsor wrote:Thanks for the offer of letting the "others" post. As I have been warned already about safety this may not be a safe enviroment for that, nor a therapudic enviroment. "They" have more details and I have no control over what would be said. So, to err on safety it will just me.



I agree that they shouldn't post here, especially if what you need is control in telling your story.

1. Have your alters spoken to the therapists?

2. Have you ever heard recordings of them speaking to the therapists?

3. Do they have anything to say that has been of help to you in trying to process all of the things that happened to you?

4. Can you keep them from communicating? Can you make them "stay in"?
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RobertPitsor wrote:Harmony,
I have been very quiet about the last legal dealings with the Church. I will say only this, the church lawyers are extreamly unscrupulous. Any law suit brought and won against the church is held up for as long as possible with appeals. I did not know this going into my case, but I learned a lot along the way. The best outcome for most who seek litigation is setlement. I am not one of those. The legal bills that were posted about need to be corrected, they well exceeded 20,000, yet they ended up losing those fees along with my case because of the activities spoken above. Sorry, I cannot go into detail on that as it may become a legal point of referance.


I'm not understanding what you meant in the part that I underlined, Robert. Are you saying that you are:

Not seeking settlement

or

Are not likely to GET a settlement

?
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If I chose the course of litigation again, I would not be seeking a setlement. There is something said about full disclosure. I am sure every point would be argued as to relavance, yet with the right judge or judge advocate general in seat, it will not be a one sided argument. With most "lawyers", there is a stance of a monitary gain. While not unresonable, but it should be resonable as to costs of work preformed. (500 per hour to staple paperwork is very exsesive)

Sorry went on a tangent there....

I would not settle, rather see it through till it's end. In any court. I hope that clears up my previous statement.


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RobertPitsor wrote:Harmony,
I have been very quiet about the last legal dealings with the Church. I will say only this, the church lawyers are extreamly unscrupulous. Any law suit brought and won against the church is held up for as long as possible with appeals. I did not know this going into my case, but I learned a lot along the way. The best outcome for most who seek litigation is setlement. I am not one of those. The legal bills that were posted about need to be corrected, they well exceeded 20,000, yet they ended up losing those fees along with my case because of the activities spoken above. Sorry, I cannot go into detail on that as it may become a legal point of referance.


I'm not understanding what you meant in the part that I underlined, Robert. Are you saying that you are:

Not seeking settlement

or

Are not likely to GET a settlement

?
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His lawyers filed a motion to quit on him. It appears from the court docket that before the motion was heard, he dismissed his case. I can see that from the federal case docket using my account.

His reference to $20,000 is rather odd. It takes a plaintiff's lawyer about $1,000,000 to pursue these cases to trial, and it is done on a contingency. The plaintiff bears nothing.

He also had one of the top law firms in Seattle; the last time I dealt with them there were LDS partners.
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