Still moaning?

[_Quasimodo]

Nobody will receive the confirmation that the Book of Mormon is true with an attitude that it is made up. If your really seeking truth, you need to let go of anger and your own desires to prove something wrong.

The "desire to prove something wrong" is the best way to decide if something is true (basic scientific principle). If it's true, it will survive testing.

[_Some Schmo]

Nobody will receive the confirmation that the Book of Mormon is true with an attitude that it is made up.

Nobody will receive the confirmation that the Book of Mormon is true based on the evidence, either. In fact, the only way is to trick yourself into it.

If your really seeking truth, you need to let go of anger and your own desires to prove something wrong.

Or, ya know, you could rely on empirical evidence. That works wonders.

[_Called2Serve]

Nobody will receive the confirmation that the Book of Mormon is true with an attitude that it is made up. If your really seeking truth, you need to let go of anger and your own desires to prove something wrong.

The "desire to prove something wrong" is the best way to decide if something is true (basic scientific principle). If it's true, it will survive testing.

Doesn't work that way with gospel truths.

[_Some Schmo]

You can't be at peace if you need to come to a hate group in order to make yourself feel better.

So you're here to make yourself feel worse?

Way to go, smart guy.

[_Tchild]

Maybe you need to go serve at a food kitchen? You know, do something your religion teaches, instead of bitching and moaning.

I do those things... See, unlike you, I have a very wide life. I also can multi-task. I don't sit at a computer watching this board drooling for the next scandle I can comment on.

JMS

A multi-tasking bitcher and moaner? See, unlike you I don't rape small animals. See how inane and silly it is to project our angst and judgments onto other people?

A "very wide life" eh? You have the eternal truth, right? Yet here you are vomiting up your insecurities. Sad.

[_Some Schmo]

Doesn't work that way with gospel truths.

As opposed to actual truths?

I'm glad you've at least drawn a distinction there.

[_Runtu]

Interesting and oddly worded assumption. Spend all my time? Not really. I spend a lot of time doing positive things. Occasionally I stand up to groups like this because I believe it hurts people and does it for fun.

Then we simply disagree. I don't see a lot of intentional hurting, though there is occasionally some of that.

But I can make the same observations about you that you make about me. You can't be at peace if you need to come to a hate group in order to make yourself feel better.

Sure, make the same observations about me. Whatever makes you feel good. I'm just pointing out that I see a lot of negativity in you, and I don't think that's healthy. I'm sure that shortly I'll stop paying attention to your posts because that's what I do when I see nothing of interest but negativity and anger.

But, yes, I'm at peace and happy. I don't know of any hate groups I'm involved with, so I would think that means I don't need a hate group to make myself feel better.

My daughter just got a high honors scholarship at her university. That makes me happy, not any involvement with some mythical hate group.

[_Called2Serve]

...and if ye shall ask with a sincere heart, with real intent, having faith in Christ, he will manifest the truth of it unto you....

[_Runtu]

Doesn't work that way with gospel truths.

Yes, you really have to want to believe before you can gain a testimony. That's how it works. But there's a certain nobility in letting go of something you really wanted to believe in because it turned out not to be true.

I'm not questioning your testimony or anyone else's but just saying that there is no shame in following your convictions, no matter how much you wanted to believe something else.

[_moksha]

Christmas is coming up. Perhaps spend less time in a hate group like this and more time focusing on positive things.

Joshua Skains

Josh, why not share this Christmas message with other boards? You can try this even with boards that never discuss Mormonism. Let your reference to hate be purely generic. Please report back here as to what they had to say and whether it constituted satisfactory attention.