Mormon Apologetics & Misogyny: The Case of William Schryver
-
- _Emeritus
- Posts: 21663
- Joined: Mon Jun 15, 2009 11:02 am
Re: Mormon Apologetics & Misogyny: The Case of William Schryver
Hello,
Wait. Mr. Molok and Mr. MM feel bad for Mr. Schryver? Uh... WHAT??? This is a hobby of his. And he was clearly, and viciously mean to women on this forum.
I have to know. I really do. What do you feel bad about? And why didn't you express the same sentiment when he was abusing women?
V/R
Dr. Cam
Wait. Mr. Molok and Mr. MM feel bad for Mr. Schryver? Uh... WHAT??? This is a hobby of his. And he was clearly, and viciously mean to women on this forum.
I have to know. I really do. What do you feel bad about? And why didn't you express the same sentiment when he was abusing women?
V/R
Dr. Cam
In the face of madness, rationality has no power - Xiao Wang, US historiographer, 2287 AD.
Every record...falsified, every book rewritten...every statue...has been renamed or torn down, every date...altered...the process is continuing...minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Ideology is always right.
Every record...falsified, every book rewritten...every statue...has been renamed or torn down, every date...altered...the process is continuing...minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Ideology is always right.
-
- _Emeritus
- Posts: 4792
- Joined: Tue Oct 24, 2006 12:40 pm
Re: Mormon Apologetics & Misogyny: The Case of William Schryver
Molok wrote:All right, so I am the only one who feels a little bad for Will. Don't get me wrong, Will should be held accountable for his words, but this just seems unfortunate. Meh, whatever.
Of course Will's Book of Abraham stuff is not a career but, besides this point...
Will is nasty, filthy, vulgar, crude, and verbally abusive to women. His hope for publication is dashed because of his disgusting behavior and someone feels bad for him?
Do you think he cares? Do you think he wishes he behaved differently? Do you think he even remotely believes he did something inappropriate? Do you think he isn't laughing his head off as he tries to convince himself that he really didn't do anything, "wrong," but someone had to pull the plug, (even though they didn't want to), because someone was related to someone who knew someone, or some such nonsense.
Y'all know he will convince himself that he is really thankful for this thread, that Jack's reputation is forever harmed, that she did him a great favor, that the folk at MI are secretly supporting him, (and snickering at the nastiness), but they had to take this measure for... fill in the blank reason.
Hmmm, not getting why anyone is feeling sorry for Will.
~td~
"The search for reality is the most dangerous of all undertakings for it destroys the world in which you live." Nisargadatta Maharaj
Re: Mormon Apologetics & Misogyny: The Case of William Schryver
Molok wrote:All right, so I am the only one who feels a little bad for Will. Don't get me wrong, Will should be held accountable for his words, but this just seems unfortunate. Meh, whatever.
I agree it is unfortunate. However, it was Will's decision to embark on an academic body of work. When anyone embarks upon an academic body of work, one has a responsibility to respect the ethics associated with those involved. Will blatantly failed to do that, and suffered the consequences.
-
- _Emeritus
- Posts: 396
- Joined: Fri Nov 26, 2010 7:08 pm
Re: Mormon Apologetics & Misogyny: The Case of William Schryver
Maybe it's just my suspicious nature, but I can't help but wonder if the real reason NAMI decided not to publish Will's Book of Abraham apologetic arguments is because they realized it was crap? Yeah, I realize NAMI isn't exactly a source of good arguments, but I think too many apologists were beginning to realize that Will's arguments are complete garbage. His public misogyny is just a convenient excuse.
-
- _Emeritus
- Posts: 1296
- Joined: Tue Nov 07, 2006 2:20 am
Re: Mormon Apologetics & Misogyny: The Case of William Schryver
MsJack wrote:I have just posted a significant update to the very first post in this thread. I hope the moderators do not mind; I used orange text and "huge" font to make sure future readers of this thread see it.
I consider the matter I have raised in this thread as closed as it ever will be. Please do not be surprised if I cease all participation in this thread from this point onward.
I congratulate you on the success of your poison pen campaign. You must be very proud.
Regards,
Pahoran
-
- _Emeritus
- Posts: 4792
- Joined: Tue Oct 24, 2006 12:40 pm
Re: Mormon Apologetics & Misogyny: The Case of William Schryver
Of course it is all Jack's fault.
Naughty Jack for gathering all Will's nasty, vulgar posts in one place.
(sigh)
~td~
Naughty Jack for gathering all Will's nasty, vulgar posts in one place.
(sigh)
~td~
"The search for reality is the most dangerous of all undertakings for it destroys the world in which you live." Nisargadatta Maharaj
-
- _Emeritus
- Posts: 832
- Joined: Sat Jun 02, 2007 10:18 pm
Re: Mormon Apologetics & Misogyny: The Case of William Schryver
Pahoran wrote:MsJack wrote:I have just posted a significant update to the very first post in this thread. I hope the moderators do not mind; I used orange text and "huge" font to make sure future readers of this thread see it.
I consider the matter I have raised in this thread as closed as it ever will be. Please do not be surprised if I cease all participation in this thread from this point onward.
I congratulate you on the success of your poison pen campaign. You must be very proud.
Regards,
Pahoran

-
- _Emeritus
- Posts: 6186
- Joined: Tue Apr 24, 2007 10:47 pm
Re: Mormon Apologetics & Misogyny: The Case of William Schryver
Pahoran wrote:I congratulate you on the success of your poison pen campaign. You must be very proud.
Do you want to post this news flash on the other board or should I?
You prove yourself of the devil and anti-mormon every word you utter, because only the devil perverts facts to make their case.--ldsfaqs (6-24-13)
-
- _Emeritus
- Posts: 8025
- Joined: Sat Apr 18, 2009 4:44 pm
Re: Mormon Apologetics & Misogyny: The Case of William Schryver
consiglieri wrote:Pahoran wrote:I congratulate you on the success of your poison pen campaign. You must be very proud.
Do you want to post this news flash on the other board or should I?
Hmm. Pahoran's appearance on this thread has got me wondering. Pah has published with FARMS, so maybe he's among the "circle of scholars" that Will mentioned earlier? I.e., Pahoran thinks this kind of misogynist behavior is amusing? It certainly wouldn't surprise me.
"[I]f, while hoping that everybody else will be honest and so forth, I can personally prosper through unethical and immoral acts without being detected and without risk, why should I not?." --Daniel Peterson, 6/4/14
-
- _Emeritus
- Posts: 1296
- Joined: Tue Nov 07, 2006 2:20 am
Re: Mormon Apologetics & Misogyny: The Case of William Schryver
Doctor Scratch wrote:Hmm. Pahoran's appearance on this thread has got me wondering. Pah has published with FARMS, so maybe he's among the "circle of scholars" that Will mentioned earlier? I.e., Pahoran thinks this kind of misogynist behavior is amusing? It certainly wouldn't surprise me.
Since you asked: I am not part of any circle. I also think Will's use of trash-talk is inappropriate and in bad taste. It's also especially unfortunate in that, by determinedly gleaning this handful of trash-talk instances out of thousands of posts, Auntie Jack seems to have managed to (at least temporarily) delayed publication of research to which the trash in question is entirely irrelevant.
Regards,
Pahoran