Today, the LDS Church issued a new statement (unsigned by the FP) concerning immigration issues, just days before an immigration resolution is to be voted upon by the Utah legislature. Here is the link to the statement:
http://newsroom.LDS.org/article/immigra ... -statement
And here is a link to analysis of the statement in the Trib:
http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/politics/5 ... h.html.csp
And here is a link to an article in the Des News about the statement:
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/7001 ... ement.html
LDS Church issues new statement on immigration controversy
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Nothing changed. The conservative option remains viable under LDS doctrine and policy. In fact it is the ONLY viable option.
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I'm not really up to date on Utah politics, but I can find no fault with the church's statement
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tubbietommy & the henchmen don't have the guts to sign the thing? What, next month they will be denying the thing?
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Rollo Tomasi wrote:Today, the LDS Church issued a new statement (unsigned by the FP) concerning immigration issues, just days before an immigration resolution is to be voted upon by the Utah legislature.
I know, it's weird to be responding to my own OP, but some of the quotes by legislators in the Trib article confirmed to me the awesome power the LDS Church wields in UT politics:
1. A delegate who helped create the guest-worker bill (which the Church supported and the resolution now seeks to repeal) said, "[T]he statement was the clearest yet from the church and that there is no way for a delegate voting on the resolution to believe the First Presidency isn't backing it." (Emphasis added).
2. Another proponent of the guest-worker bill said "he plans to share the statement of the church as a part of his campaign leading up to the Utah Republican Party Convention." (Emphasis added).
3. An opponent of the guest-worker bill (and supporter of repeal) interpreted the statement as giving delegates "plenty of wiggle room when considering their vote on the resolution[,]" and that because the statement won't be read from the publit, "there isn't a way for Mormon delegates to think that by voting for the resolution they are going against the First Presidency." (Emphasis added).
Brother Brigham's dream for Utah has come true: a veiled theocracy.
"Moving beyond apologist persuasion, LDS polemicists furiously (and often fraudulently) attack any non-traditional view of Mormonism. They don't mince words -- they mince the truth."
-- Mike Quinn, writing of the FARMSboys, in "Early Mormonism and the Magic World View," p. x (Rev. ed. 1998)
-- Mike Quinn, writing of the FARMSboys, in "Early Mormonism and the Magic World View," p. x (Rev. ed. 1998)
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Rollo Tomasi wrote:Rollo Tomasi wrote:Today, the LDS Church issued a new statement (unsigned by the FP) concerning immigration issues, just days before an immigration resolution is to be voted upon by the Utah legislature.
I know, it's weird to be responding to my own OP, but some of the quotes by legislators in the Trib article confirmed to me the awesome power the LDS Church wields in UT politics:
1. A delegate who helped create the guest-worker bill (which the Church supported and the resolution now seeks to repeal) said, "[T]he statement was the clearest yet from the church and that there is no way for a delegate voting on the resolution to believe the First Presidency isn't backing it." (Emphasis added).
2. Another proponent of the guest-worker bill said "he plans to share the statement of the church as a part of his campaign leading up to the Utah Republican Party Convention." (Emphasis added).
3. An opponent of the guest-worker bill (and supporter of repeal) interpreted the statement as giving delegates "plenty of wiggle room when considering their vote on the resolution[,]" and that because the statement won't be read from the publit, "there isn't a way for Mormon delegates to think that by voting for the resolution they are going against the First Presidency." (Emphasis added).
Brother Brigham's dream for Utah has come true: a veiled theocracy.
There's no denying that. And the implications for a Mormon president are serious.
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While affirming its constitutional right of expression on political and social issues, the Church reaffirms its long-standing policy of neutrality regarding political parities, political platforms, and candidates for political office. Church facilities, directories, and mailing lists are not to be used for political purposes.
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From LDS.org
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Brother Brigham's dream for Utah has come true: a veiled theocracy.
What is your understanding of the meaning of the term "theocracy" Shades?
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There's no denying that. And the implications for a Mormon president are serious.
Cue audience: "How serious are they?"
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