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Jersey Girl wrote:
zeezrom wrote:I'm wondering why being a convert would make him more accepting of your lifestyle.


Her lifestyle?

Zee,

What "lifestyle" are you talking about? I'm honestly shocked by what you wrote.

Really. I am.

Jersey Girl


Lighten the f*** up, Jersey Girl. This isn't FMH.

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LDST

Lighten the f*** up, Jersey Girl. This isn't FMH.


I have no idea what FMH is, LDST. What do you mean "lighten the “F” up"?

I asked a simple question. Don't you think you're overreacting just a bit?

I sure do.
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Jersey Girl wrote:LDST

Lighten the f*** up, Jersey Girl. This isn't FMH.


I have no idea what FMH is, LDST. What do you mean "lighten the f*** up"?

I asked a simple question. Don't you think you're overreacting just a bit?

I sure do.


Feminist Mormon Housewives - this is the kind of nonsense that crops up over there. And by, "lighten the f*** up", it's in reference to the dressing down you gave Zee for using the word 'lifestyle' in reference to the OP's bisexuality. You've kinda been acting like a thread nanny.

While I agree that 'lifestyle' is not technically accurate, it's a shortcut that a number of my gay friends use when referring to their sexuality and their culture.

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LDSToronto and Jersey Girl,

Please, can't we all just get along? I want you guys to imagine that you are holding hands while watching this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SeJ86poZq60&feature=related
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Jersey Girl and I were siblings in the pre existence. I played Croquet with her future husband.
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LDST

Feminist Mormon Housewives - this is the kind of nonsense that crops up over there. And by, "lighten the f*** up", it's in reference to the dressing down you gave Zee for using the word 'lifestyle' in reference to the OP's bisexuality.


Whether you realize it or not, zee and I are friends and there is no "dressing down" in my comments to him. zee is on a journey in which is thinking is changing about a number of issues. I simply challenged him to think about his word usage and he'd expect it of me.

You've kinda been acting like a thread nanny.


Thread nanny? Let's go for accuracy. Liz, just me, Bond and I all criticized the comments of male posters on this thread in response to a sensitive topic raised by a young woman. What you don't like is that I singled out one of your posts and now you've appointed yourself as my nanny. Look, if you want to spend your time on the board lashing out at me, that's your choice.

While I agree that 'lifestyle' is not technically accurate, it's a shortcut that a number of my gay friends use when referring to their sexuality and their culture.


Of course it's not technically accurate which is my point. I simply would like to encourage people to think about the expressions that many of us use without thinking.

If anyone here would like to define or describe "gay lifestyle" or "bi-sexual lifestyle", I'm willing to read and consider it. My position is that being gay or being bi-sexual (or heterosexual for that matter) identifies a sexual orientation, not a lifestyle and when we characterize individuals as engaging in a "lifestyle" we set them up for bias, bigotry and abuse.

Not my way of doing things, that's for sure.
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zeezrom wrote:Jersey Girl and I were siblings in the pre existence. I played Croquet with her future husband.


:-)

It's okay, zee, he didn't like what I did with one of his posts and now he's trying to shut me down.

Like that's gonna happen.
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Jersey Girl wrote:
zeezrom wrote:Jersey Girl and I were siblings in the pre existence. I played Croquet with her future husband.


:-)

It's okay, zee, he didn't like what I did with one of his posts and now he's trying to shut me down.

Like that's gonna happen.


Like I said, lighten up - I'm not trying to shut anyone down. Good god, this isn't MDD.

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Jersey Girl wrote:LDST

Whether you realize it or not, zee and I are friends and there is no "dressing down" in my comments to him. zee is on a journey in which is thinking is changing about a number of issues. I simply challenged him to think about his word usage and he'd expect it of me.


If this was an insider thing, my apology. But, go back and read it - I think you can see how it came across as "don't you use that word on my watch, mister" to those of us not on the inside.
You've kinda been acting like a thread nanny.


Thread nanny? Let's go for accuracy. Liz, just me, Bond and I all criticized the comments of male posters on this thread in response to a sensitive topic raised by a young woman. What you don't like is that I singled out one of your posts and now you've appointed yourself as my nanny. Look, if you want to spend your time on the board lashing out at me, that's your choice.


I'd forgotten about the post you'd commented on... I'm not stalking you around the thread. Your post to Zee seemed overly harsh, that's all, and given the rebukes that have been happening on this thread, it's hard to separate insider posts from general commentary.

While I agree that 'lifestyle' is not technically accurate, it's a shortcut that a number of my gay friends use when referring to their sexuality and their culture.


Of course it's not technically accurate which is my point. I simply would like to encourage people to think about the expressions that many of us use without thinking.

If anyone here would like to define or describe "gay lifestyle" or "bi-sexual lifestyle", I'm willing to read and consider it. My position is that being gay or being bi-sexual (or heterosexual for that matter) identifies a sexual orientation, not a lifestyle and when we characterize individuals as engaging in a "lifestyle" we set them up for bias, bigotry and abuse.

Not my way of doing things, that's for sure.

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See? Now there's language we can all understand - you got your point across, it didn't sound high-and-mighty and tsk-tsk-y.

OK, Jersey Girl, I'm done bickering with you... bygones?

H.
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outcast2005 wrote:I was previously an inactive Mormon, but recently I went to the bishop and am in the process of repenting of my grievous sins. I started going to a singles' ward at the invitation of a friend that is visiting for the summer. He is a convert to the Church and served a mission. I have feelings for him and I am just wondering, when is a good time to tell someone that you are in a relationship with that you are bisexual and have had relationships with women before? Is there ever a good time to do that? I am also wondering whether the doctrine that homosexuals shouldn't get married in the Church also applies to bisexuals. Thoughts?

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