Did FARMS/MI ever give a critical review of Bushman's RSR?

[_Buffalo]

We both know it's true, Dan.

We both know it's false.

You're right Dan. Nitpicking endlessly on substantive issues like Palmer's insider status is a great way to assuage a member's doubts about Joseph Smith. Good call.

[_Daniel Peterson]

Whoa. I'm utterly speechless.

We should be so lucky!

As a CES instructor, he's more of an insider than a professor of Islamic Studies and Arabic.

I already addressed this.

I've published more about Mormon history than he had. (He had published precisely nothing.) I'm more involved with professional historians of Mormonism than he was.

Leonard Arrington, the founder of "the new Mormon history" and the founding president of the Mormon History Association and for ten years the official Church Historian, was a professor of economics. Davis Bitton (a former Assistant Church Historian) and Stan Kimball, two subsequent presidents of the MHA and themselves prolific historians of Mormonism, held appointments as professors of European history.

Nitpicking endlessly on substantive issues like Palmer's insider status is a great way to assuage a member's doubts about Joseph Smith.

Why did you bring the subject up? Why do you keep returning to it?

Are you demanding that I exit all of the threads on it so that you can have them to yourself and repeat your accusations without opposition?

[_Buffalo]

As a CES instructor, he's more of an insider than a professor of Islamic Studies and Arabic.

I already addressed this.

I've published more about Mormon history than he had. (He had published precisely nothing.) I'm more involved with professional historians of Mormonism than he was.

Leonard Arrington, the founder of "the new Mormon history" and the founding president of the Mormon History Association and for ten years the official Church Historian, was a professor of economics. Davis Bitton (a former Assistant Church Historian) and Stan Kimball, two subsequent presidents of the MHA and themselves prolific historians of Mormonism, held appointments as professors of European history.

I'm not sure what you're hoping to accomplish by attempting to latch yourself onto other people's credentials and positions.

Are you demanding that I exit all of the threads on it so that you can have them to yourself and repeat your accusations without opposition?

What an odd question. The answer is no, of course.

[_Daniel Peterson]

I'm not sure what you're hoping to accomplish by attempting to latch yourself onto other people's credentials and positions.

Whoooosh!

You missed the point utterly and entirely, it seems.

I've got to go. There appears to be little value in this, anyway.

[_Buffalo]

I'm not sure what you're hoping to accomplish by attempting to latch yourself onto other people's credentials and positions.

Whoooosh!

You missed the point utterly and entirely, it seems.

I've got to go. There appears to be little value in this, anyway.

I found your response to be of little value. I'm sure you've got a lot of interesting things to say about Islam. But Mormonism is just your hobby horse.

[_Daniel Peterson]

A basic logic course would help, I think.

Provided you passed it.

Really gotta go now. No more slumming.

[_Buffalo]

A basic logic course would help, I think.

Provided you passed it.

Really gotta go now. No more slumming.

Logically, other people's accomplishments don't get applied to you by association. Hope this helps.

[_Daniel Peterson]

Got a fifteen-minute reprieve.

Logically, other people's accomplishments don't get applied to you by association. Hope this helps.

It doesn't. It just demonstrates that the point sailed several miles over your befuddled head.

And it wasn't even a difficult one!

[_Doctor Scratch]

Dan,

Why are you so emotional about this? I noticed on a separate thread that there seemed to be some allusion to a person close to you exiting the Church due to Palmer's book. Is that the reason for your vendetta against this man? Whatever the case, this is clearly one of those topics that sets you off.

[_Buffalo]

Got a fifteen-minute reprieve.

Logically, other people's accomplishments don't get applied to you by association. Hope this helps.

It doesn't. It just demonstrates that the point sailed several miles over your befuddled head.

And it wasn't even a difficult one!

You're saying rubbing elbows with the right people gives you credibility. I get it.