I exclude you out of respect...

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_Lucretia MacEvil
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Oaks should have just kept his mouth shut on the subject. There probably wasn't a woman in attendance who had any expectation of being asked to participate in the first place.
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Lucretia MacEvil wrote:Oaks should have just kept his mouth shut on the subject. There probably wasn't a woman in attendance who had any expectation of being asked to participate in the first place.


Yeah, I feel like his sexist excuse actually just highlighted it.
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just me wrote:
Lucretia MacEvil wrote:Oaks should have just kept his mouth shut on the subject. There probably wasn't a woman in attendance who had any expectation of being asked to participate in the first place.


Yeah, I feel like his sexist excuse actually just highlighted it.


Exactly.
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why me wrote:I think that it was a nice gesture of him. Certainly back in the day, it would be the gentlemanly thing to do.


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just me wrote:
Lucretia MacEvil wrote:Oaks should have just kept his mouth shut on the subject. There probably wasn't a woman in attendance who had any expectation of being asked to participate in the first place.


Yeah, I feel like his sexist excuse actually just highlighted it.


Well then they knew their limits.

by the way, Oaks is a secret admirer of Harry Enfield.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjxY9rZwNGU
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Lucretia MacEvil wrote:Oaks should have just kept his mouth shut


The rest of your statement was superfluous.
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These ladies managed quite well, wearing white pumps and gloves to boot.
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And these ladies too, seems women can manage to lift a ceremonial shovel full of dirt (does whyme understand no one is actually doing any construction work) without any detrimental effects to their shoes.
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just me wrote:
Oaks noted that he purposefully excluded women from the ceremonial shoveling out of respect for them because of the muddy conditions in front of the podium. He didn't want their shoes to get soiled.

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Why would he even bring it up?
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moksha wrote:
He failed to throw is cloak on the mud so that the delicate feet of yon maidens could remain unsullied. Where was the chivalry there Why Me?


It seems it is not good to be a gentleman these days. I suppose that he should've invited some sisters to pick up a shovel in their sunday finest complete with dresses or skirts, walk to the site in their nice sunday shoes, and shovel some mud. But instead he was a gentleman and allowed the ladies not to get their shoes dirty.

What a terrible guy.
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café crema wrote:Image

These ladies managed quite well, wearing white pumps and gloves to boot.
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And these ladies too, seems women can manage to lift a ceremonial shovel full of dirt (does whyme understand no one is actually doing any construction work) without any detrimental effects to their shoes.


Add a little mud from rain and all will be well in those shoes that the women are wearing.
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