Should LDS consider a progressive tithe structure?
-
- _Emeritus
- Posts: 18195
- Joined: Fri Oct 27, 2006 1:35 am
Re: Should LDS consider a progressive tithe structure?
I wonder how many would pay a full tithe, if the donations were made public?
Secrecy... The devil's in the details.
Secrecy... The devil's in the details.
(Nevo, Jan 23) And the Melchizedek Priesthood may not have been restored until the summer of 1830, several months after the organization of the Church.
-
- _Emeritus
- Posts: 6914
- Joined: Wed Oct 25, 2006 2:56 am
Re: Should LDS consider a progressive tithe structure?
I'd feel a lot better about paying tithing if a new tithing slip like Drifting's were to come out.
And when the confederates saw Jackson standing fearless as a stone wall the army of Northern Virginia took courage and drove the federal army off their land.
-
- _Emeritus
- Posts: 22508
- Joined: Fri Oct 27, 2006 8:42 pm
Re: Should LDS consider a progressive tithe structure?
Drifting wrote:I think the Church should produce a new tithing slip onto which you could allocate your payment to where you felt it should go.
New Tithing Slip
Manuals & Materials
New Chapels
New Temples
BYU
Interest Bearing Investments
General Authority Stipends
General Authority Expenses, cars etc.
Church Educational Employee's
Etc, you get the picture.
You can apportion your ten percent across which ever areas you felt were most deserving.
What if the majority chose that box at the bottom marked Aid to those in need?
.
Cry Heaven and let loose the Penguins of Peace
-
- _Emeritus
- Posts: 21663
- Joined: Mon Jun 15, 2009 11:02 am
Re: Should LDS consider a progressive tithe structure?
We are the 99%.
In the face of madness, rationality has no power - Xiao Wang, US historiographer, 2287 AD.
Every record...falsified, every book rewritten...every statue...has been renamed or torn down, every date...altered...the process is continuing...minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Ideology is always right.
Every record...falsified, every book rewritten...every statue...has been renamed or torn down, every date...altered...the process is continuing...minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Ideology is always right.
-
- _Emeritus
- Posts: 7306
- Joined: Thu Oct 27, 2011 10:52 am
Re: Should LDS consider a progressive tithe structure?
moksha wrote:Drifting wrote:I think the Church should produce a new tithing slip onto which you could allocate your payment to where you felt it should go.
New Tithing Slip
Manuals & Materials
New Chapels
New Temples
BYU
Interest Bearing Investments
General Authority Stipends
General Authority Expenses, cars etc.
Church Educational Employee's
Etc, you get the picture.
Humanitarian aid in ___________ (please specify country)
You can apportion your ten percent across which ever areas you felt were most deserving.
What if the majority chose that box at the bottom marked Aid to those in need?
.
(above post edited to add the last option)
I think if the Church amended it's tithing policy to allow members to decide on tithing distribution:
a. General Authorities would all get secular jobs
b. BYU would repeal it's honour code
c. Members would be asked to pay extra for whole lot more stuff
d. Christ would heave a sigh of relief
“We look to not only the spiritual but also the temporal, and we believe that a person who is impoverished temporally cannot blossom spiritually.”
Keith McMullin - Counsellor in Presiding Bishopric
"One, two, three...let's go shopping!"
Thomas S Monson - Prophet, Seer, Revelator
Keith McMullin - Counsellor in Presiding Bishopric
"One, two, three...let's go shopping!"
Thomas S Monson - Prophet, Seer, Revelator
-
- _Emeritus
- Posts: 5422
- Joined: Tue Mar 03, 2009 11:38 pm
Re: Should LDS consider a progressive tithe structure?
moksha wrote:Drifting wrote:I think the Church should produce a new tithing slip onto which you could allocate your payment to where you felt it should go.
New Tithing Slip
Manuals & Materials
New Chapels
New Temples
BYU
Interest Bearing Investments
General Authority Stipends
General Authority Expenses, cars etc.
Church Educational Employee's
Etc, you get the picture.
You can apportion your ten percent across which ever areas you felt were most deserving.
What if the majority chose that box at the bottom marked Aid to those in need?
Or the bottom one "Etc. You get the picture." Do you get a picture of the First Presidency?
"We have taken up arms in defense of our liberty, our property, our wives, and our children; we are determined to preserve them, or die."
- Captain Moroni - 'Address to the Inhabitants of Canada' 1775
- Captain Moroni - 'Address to the Inhabitants of Canada' 1775
-
- _Emeritus
- Posts: 18195
- Joined: Fri Oct 27, 2006 1:35 am
Re: Should LDS consider a progressive tithe structure?
Drifting wrote:(above post edited to add the last option)
I think if the Church amended it's tithing policy to allow members to decide on tithing distribution:
a. General Authorities would all get secular jobs
Most of them are retired from secular jobs.
b. BYU would repeal it's honour code
I'm not seeing a connection. Explain please.
c. Members would be asked to pay extra for whole lot more stuff
This is coming anyway. Members already pay for stuff and do stuff they didn't used to have to pay for and do.
d. Christ would heave a sigh of relief
I'm not seeing a connection. Please explain further.
(Nevo, Jan 23) And the Melchizedek Priesthood may not have been restored until the summer of 1830, several months after the organization of the Church.
-
- _Emeritus
- Posts: 7306
- Joined: Thu Oct 27, 2011 10:52 am
Re: Should LDS consider a progressive tithe structure?
Harmony,
GA's would need to get jobs because hardly anybody will put money towards GA stipends
BYU would get hardly any tithing funding and so would need to attract paying customers - they would need non members to make ends meet
I agree new ways of fleecing the sheep are being introduced
Most people would pay their tithing towards humanitarian aid - something that I think Chirst would be happier about than they way his current Prophet's spend it
GA's would need to get jobs because hardly anybody will put money towards GA stipends
BYU would get hardly any tithing funding and so would need to attract paying customers - they would need non members to make ends meet
I agree new ways of fleecing the sheep are being introduced
Most people would pay their tithing towards humanitarian aid - something that I think Chirst would be happier about than they way his current Prophet's spend it
“We look to not only the spiritual but also the temporal, and we believe that a person who is impoverished temporally cannot blossom spiritually.”
Keith McMullin - Counsellor in Presiding Bishopric
"One, two, three...let's go shopping!"
Thomas S Monson - Prophet, Seer, Revelator
Keith McMullin - Counsellor in Presiding Bishopric
"One, two, three...let's go shopping!"
Thomas S Monson - Prophet, Seer, Revelator
-
- _Emeritus
- Posts: 18195
- Joined: Fri Oct 27, 2006 1:35 am
Re: Should LDS consider a progressive tithe structure?
Drifting wrote:Harmony,
GA's would need to get jobs because hardly anybody will put money towards GA stipends
You are aware that the vast majority of the GAs are past retirement age? And have healthy retirement packages? Heck, Packer could sell his million dollar house, and live rent free in a church owned condo at the Mall.
BYU would get hardly any tithing funding and so would need to attract paying customers - they would need non members to make ends meet
I don't think so. If that were true, the endowment funds at most universities would be empty. They're not. People give to universities for different reasons than they tithe.
I agree new ways of fleecing the sheep are being introduced
Really quite creative, when you think about it. I'm sure it will only get worse as belt-tightening continues.
Most people would pay their tithing towards humanitarian aid - something that I think Chirst would be happier about than they way his current Prophet's spend it
Ah. Well, in that case, agreed!
(Nevo, Jan 23) And the Melchizedek Priesthood may not have been restored until the summer of 1830, several months after the organization of the Church.
-
- _Emeritus
- Posts: 7306
- Joined: Thu Oct 27, 2011 10:52 am
Re: Should LDS consider a progressive tithe structure?
Harmony,
The current GA's are retired.
What about the next lot and the lot after that? The fund will dry up and at some point GA's will need to work for a living like the rest of us.
BYU is funded largely by tithing.
To get funds from elsewhere, I think, they would need to find a way of attracting non Mormon funds which in turn would be easier without the honour code in place.
The current GA's are retired.
What about the next lot and the lot after that? The fund will dry up and at some point GA's will need to work for a living like the rest of us.
BYU is funded largely by tithing.
To get funds from elsewhere, I think, they would need to find a way of attracting non Mormon funds which in turn would be easier without the honour code in place.
“We look to not only the spiritual but also the temporal, and we believe that a person who is impoverished temporally cannot blossom spiritually.”
Keith McMullin - Counsellor in Presiding Bishopric
"One, two, three...let's go shopping!"
Thomas S Monson - Prophet, Seer, Revelator
Keith McMullin - Counsellor in Presiding Bishopric
"One, two, three...let's go shopping!"
Thomas S Monson - Prophet, Seer, Revelator