How does God want you to treat others?

[_Nightlion]

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ludwigm, are these your own drawings. If so you got a definite cool style going there.

[_Blixa]

they breed this right-wing nonsensical view of the world.

H.

too bad you had to throw this ridiculous claim in. Makes it much more difficult to take your otherwise provocative post seriously.

Not at all. Contemporary Mormonism often does encourage a ridiculous right-wing view of the world. Surely you've seen it displayed here, Hoops?

I agree with Morely, LDST and the others...

[_Yoda]

This is where I think that churches could mobilize. Since we're on a LDS related board, I'll go with it. The LDS congregations that I have seen close and upfront, are loaded with professionals and often healthcare professionals. Instead of having LDS families grabbing up dollars to send their kids on missions all over, why not have that youth be mentored by LDS healthcare professionals and give service on the streets?

This could, of course, be said of any church.

I'd say that many or most of our homeless are suffering from mental illness, addiction and abuse. Why don't we so-called Christian's who have expertise in these areas, get up off our collective butts and go to the streets?

Yes, I know there are programs for healthcare professionals to set up clinics and such in depressed areas, but what about our churches?

How rich would the blessing be for LDS youth to engage in such mentoring and giving service in their own communities at the side of professionals who are well able to treat folks?

I must be dreaming....

QFT. I couldn't agree with you more. The 50,000 doorknockers we send out every year could make a world of difference if their focus was on compassionate humanitarian aid.

H.

We already have the organization set up. If the missionary program could be run more like a church funded Peace Corp, it would be fantastic. The missionaries could be assigned to various sectors of service. Instead of going out in a shirt and tie, they would be attired in jeans, t-shirts, and tennis shoes...ready to work. The service would be primary...the missionary work secondary. Missionaries could be assigned to hospitals...to assist in building and/or fixing homes, etc. If that was the case, I think that we would actually see a rise in missionary success. People who saw our missionaries exhibiting the true love of Christ would want to learn more.

[_Hoops]

Not at all. Contemporary Mormonism often does encourage a ridiculous right-wing view of the world. Surely you've seen it displayed here, Hoops?

I agree with Morely, LDST and the others...

If LDST's point was that Mormonism breeds a particularly nefarious brand of right wing politics, based on what I've seen here, then, yes. And I've noted the same from personal experience. But I don't think that was his point. It was a throw in comment designed to bring about cheap applause.

In addition, one could make the claim, and support it, that atheism/agnosticism/humanism breeds a particularly nefarious (and dehumanizing) brand of left wing politics.

[_Morley]

Not at all. Contemporary Mormonism often does encourage a ridiculous right-wing view of the world. Surely you've seen it displayed here, Hoops?

I agree with Morely, LDST and the others...

If LDST's point was that Mormonism breeds a particularly nefarious brand of right wing politics, based on what I've seen here, then, yes. And I've noted the same from personal experience. But I don't think that was his point. It was a throw in comment designed to bring about cheap applause.

In addition, one could make the claim, and support it, that atheism/agnosticism/humanism breeds a particularly nefarious (and dehumanizing) brand of left wing politics.

I don't think it was "a throw in comment designed to bring about cheap applause." Maybe you should ask LDSToronto.

That aside, please do make the argument and support it.

[_Morley]

We already have the organization set up. If the missionary program could be run more like a church funded Peace Corp, it would be fantastic. The missionaries could be assigned to various sectors of service. Instead of going out in a shirt and tie, they would be attired in jeans, t-shirts, and tennis shoes...ready to work. The service would be primary...the missionary work secondary. Missionaries could be assigned to hospitals...to assist in building and/or fixing homes, etc. If that was the case, I think that we would actually see a rise in missionary success. People who saw our missionaries exhibiting the true love of Christ would want to learn more.

I think that the day will come when the Church will figure this out.

[_ludwigm]

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or other strips from http://wulffmorgenthaler.com ...

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ludwigm, are these your own drawings. If so you got a definite cool style going there.

I'd like those were mine.
Orally, I have the same style. Unfortunately in english writing I can not convey it.

All I can is that reading some thread reminds me one of their strip which fits. Or may fit.

[_Hoops]

I don't think it was "a throw in comment designed to bring about cheap applause." Maybe you should ask LDSToronto.

That aside, please do make the argument and support it.

Abortion is the definition of de-humanizing. Expansive abortion rights are exclusive to left leaning politics. Shall I go on?

[_LDSToronto]

I don't think it was "a throw in comment designed to bring about cheap applause." Maybe you should ask LDSToronto.

That aside, please do make the argument and support it.

Abortion is the definition of de-humanizing. Expansive abortion rights are exclusive to left leaning politics. Shall I go on?

What the hell are you talking about? How did abortion enter into the fray?

I didn't throw out the right-wing comment to garner adoration. I said it because the LDS church is a right-leaning religion. Take a look at the way it values tradition, patriarchy, social hierarchy and inequality (the three degrees of glory), gender roles, and yes, so called 'family values'.

This thinking is directly in conflict with anything that Christ every taught in the New Testament and in The Book of Mormon. In fact the most correct book ever written, The Book of Mormon, teaches the following:

"And also, ye yourselves will succor those that stand in need of your succor; ye will administer of your substance unto him that standeth in need; and ye will not suffer that the beggar putteth up his petition to you in vain, and turn him out to perish. Perhaps thou shalt say: The man has brought upon himself his misery; therefore I will stay my hand, and will not give unto him of my food, nor impart unto him of my substance that he may not suffer, for his punishments are just—
But I say unto you, O man, whosoever doeth this the same hath great cause to repent; and except he repenteth of that which he hath done he perisheth forever, and hath no interest in the kingdom of God. For behold, are we not all beggars? Do we not all depend upon the same Being, even God, for all the substance which we have, for both food and raiment, and for gold, and for silver, and for all the riches which we have of every kind?"

I can tell you that most members of the church that I have encountered pay this lip service only. Members have quoted this and then gone off and called people 'welfare bums'. Members have *read* this in lesson manuals and proceeded to then go on about First Nations people being given too much by our government and "single mothers should be forced to work for their pay, after all they broke one of God's commands..."

So, ya, I didn't throw it out there for applause. I threw it out there for truth.

H.

20 And behold, even at this time, ye have been calling on his name, and begging for a aremission of your sins. And has he suffered that ye have begged in vain? Nay; he has poured out his bSpirit upon you, and has caused that your hearts should be filled with cjoy, and has caused that your mouths should be stopped that ye could not find utterance, so exceedingly great was your joy.

[_Drifting]

God wants us to treat others better than He treats us.