What is Evil and what is Good?

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_ludwigm
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Re: What is Evil and what is Good?

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Quasimodo wrote:
ludwigm wrote: Huckleberry Finn
Wow, I usually double check may own spelling (I have dyslexic fingers), but I didn't think to check Hucks.
I don't want to derail any thread... but it happens sometimes. I AM sorry.
I don't use spell checker. I must not.
Words - Hungarian, English and German ones. the languages I speak... OK, the languages I believe I think I understand - are units for me. Many times two or three word expressions/idioms/terms are the same units.
I don't know the mechanism others read. I read one line at a time (for short lines, especially scriptures) or one line in two or three pass (for wide pages).
"Huckleberry Finn" and "Tom Sawyer" are preprogrammed expressions from my childhood.
Any offset can be salient.

When I write a comment, I mistype frequently. I hasten to type. At the end of the word I detect the error. Without spell checker-


Quasimodo wrote:Can't get away with anything on this board. :)

I am sorry again, I don't understand this sentence. Please explain...

I have always problem with phrasal verbs.
get *, put *, take *
These constructions can not be translated logically. One must memorize them one to one. (Hungarian is not better than that, by the way.)
For example, why does mean "take off" the starting of an airplane? Who does take what off where? I have to memorize the structure... then ready, over, read next word to interpret.
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Re: What is Evil and what is Good?

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ludwigm wrote:
Quasimodo wrote:Can't get away with anything on this board. :)


I am sorry again, I don't understand this sentence. Please explain...


It means: "On this board, it is impossible to commit a fault without it being detected".

"Get away with X" = "Do X (a bad act) in such a way that you are undetected/unpunished"

Possible psychological basis of the idiom:

"I got away with X": "I successfully attained (got) a location somewhere else (away), taking X with me".
Zadok:
I did not have a faith crisis. I discovered that the Church was having a truth crisis.
Maksutov:
That's the problem with this supernatural stuff, it doesn't really solve anything. It's a placeholder for ignorance.
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Re: What is Evil and what is Good?

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Chap wrote:
ludwigm wrote:
[*quote="Quasimodo"]Can't get away with anything on this board. :)[*/quote]

I am sorry again, I don't understand this sentence. Please explain...


It means: "On this board, it is impossible to commit a fault without it being detected".

"Get away with X" = "Do X (a bad act) in such a way that you are undetected/unpunished"

Possible psychological basis of the idiom:

"I got away with X": "I successfully attained (got) a location somewhere else (away), taking X with me".


Ahem...


Thank You.
Next time I WANT to use this idiom.
- Whenever a poet or preacher, chief or wizard spouts gibberish, the human race spends centuries deciphering the message. - Umberto Eco
- To assert that the earth revolves around the sun is as erroneous as to claim that Jesus was not born of a virgin. - Cardinal Bellarmine at the trial of Galilei
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Re: What is Evil and what is Good?

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ludwigm wrote:
Ahem...


Thank You.
Next time I WANT to use this idiom.


I hope you get away with it!
Zadok:
I did not have a faith crisis. I discovered that the Church was having a truth crisis.
Maksutov:
That's the problem with this supernatural stuff, it doesn't really solve anything. It's a placeholder for ignorance.
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Re: What is Evil and what is Good?

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just me wrote:This has come up recently and I don't feel like there was an adequate answer.

What are evil deeds? I really would love an actual list of every evil act.
What are the attributes of, or what makes, an evil man?

What are good works?

I am mostly interested in what believers believe works of evil or evil people are. My belief is that what people think is evil is rooted in their current culture/religion, norms, customs and laws.

As we saw in another thread, Moroni 7 makes the claim that an "evil man" cannot do good works. I believe this is obviously false. People are not so one dimensional.

In another thread there is reference to people choosing evil over good. I am interested in what that means. What is evil?

This may sound like a silly question to some, but I am most sincere.


'Evil' seems to be commonly defined as an immoral act or activity, with immoral meaning 'not conforming to accepted principles of right and wrong. This would seem to agree with your view that actually, it is society as a collective that determines what is evil and what is good.

This also opens up the possibility for something to be evil in one part of the world but good in another.

It would also seem that by this definition there are aspects of the Church that are 'evil'.
As an example, is it right and proper to withold the information about what covenants and rituals Christ requires of you as a Mormon until after that person has been baptised a member?
Is it right and proper for the Church to withold the information about how member donations are distributed?
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