science and reliion again but a new twist

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science and reliion again but a new twist

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Religion reduces science literacy in America and the effect exists even after evolution and global warming are taken out of the equation:

http://whyevolutionistrue.wordpress.com ... n-america/
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You seem to be making an unwarranted causal connection by positing "Religion reduces science literacy."
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Tarski wrote:Religion reduces science literacy in America and the effect exists even after evolution and global warming are taken out of the equation:

http://whyevolutionistrue.wordpress.com ... n-america/

That there's cuz yer can't be findin' no Jesus in yonder test tube. Yer know whaddimean?
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Aristotle Smith wrote:You seem to be making an unwarranted causal connection by positing "Religion reduces science literacy."

...he says without reading the article...
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Aristotle Smith wrote:You seem to be making an unwarranted causal connection by positing "Religion reduces science literacy."


I'm not sure there's a meaningful distinction there.
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Tarski wrote:Religion reduces science literacy in America and the effect exists even after evolution and global warming are taken out of the equation:

http://whyevolutionistrue.wordpress.com ... n-america/

Excellent. And appalling. Thank you.

From the paper:

...All together, these religious identifications explain 15% of the variation in science literacy.

To put these figures in perspective, race accounts for 9% of the variation in science literacy, education for 20%, income 9%, and gender 4%. Sherkat concludes that “religious factors are as important for predicting scientific proficiency as are many common sociological characteristics such as race, education, income, and gender.”...
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Morley wrote:Excellent. And appalling. Thank you.

From the paper:

...All together, these religious identifications explain 15% of the variation in science literacy.

To put these figures in perspective, race accounts for 9% of the variation in science literacy, education for 20%, income 9%, and gender 4%. Sherkat concludes that “religious factors are as important for predicting scientific proficiency as are many common sociological characteristics such as race, education, income, and gender.”...



Is it just me or does the education for 20% seem like a really low number?
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Fence Sitter wrote:
Morley wrote:Excellent. And appalling. Thank you.

From the paper:

...All together, these religious identifications explain 15% of the variation in science literacy.

To put these figures in perspective, race accounts for 9% of the variation in science literacy, education for 20%, income 9%, and gender 4%. Sherkat concludes that “religious factors are as important for predicting scientific proficiency as are many common sociological characteristics such as race, education, income, and gender.”...



Is it just me or does the education for 20% seem like a really low number?

Perhaps the effect of education on science literacy is lower than expected because the "bar" for determining adequate science literacy is set low.
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Or perhaps this is why education does not matter as much as one might expect ---

When asked what they would do if scientists were to disprove a particular religious belief, nearly two-thirds (64%) of people say they would continue to hold to what their religion teaches rather than accept the contrary scientific finding, according to the results of an October 2006 Time magazine poll. Indeed, in a May 2007 Gallup poll, only 14% of those who say they do not believe in evolution cite lack of evidence as the main reason underpinning their views; more people cite their belief in Jesus (19%), God (16%) or religion generally (16%) as their reason for rejecting Darwin’s theory.


---because clearly belief in Jesus and God Trump's evidence, science, education and reality.
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Is it also worth noting that, apparently, atheists/agnostics can't spell?
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