Elkenah, Libnah, Mahmackrah and Korash ...Really?

[_Wisdom Seeker]

You'll find that the evangelical variety of Christianity doesn't fare all that well here either. Some of our more vocal posters tend to think Mormons and Evangelicals are on about the same level.

Your (or anyone's) opinion of the success of Evangelical Christianity is totally Irrelevant to the topic here. If you ar going to participate in this thread, I request that you refrain from generating irrelevant tangents that do not address the issue I have raised.

Thank you

-BH

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While Harmony probably was a little off-topic in regard to this subject, it was simply stated to inform you of a common distrust of Mormons and Evangelicals here by many at this site. Your questions should be raised in the MDD or MAD board. You might not be banned over there if you tread slowly and lightly.

[_BrianH]

Your (or anyone's) opinion of the success of Evangelical Christianity is totally Irrelevant to the topic here. If you ar going to participate in this thread, I request that you refrain from generating irrelevant tangents that do not address the issue I have raised.

Thank you

-BH

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The Evangelical position as it relates to the Mormon position, since you are Evangelical and I am Mormon, is indeed part of the topic of this thread. Unless you can't defend against threats to your own religion?

Incorrect. No one's "position" is relevant unless they are addressing the specific challenge I have issued to you. Niether your religion nor my religion are not the topic here. You may be Mormon and I may be a Christian, but that does not mean that you are going to be able to address the topic by doing the typical "Mormon thing" and trying to AVOID the specific topic I have raised by retreating behind the usual accusations, rabbit trails, smoke screen and evasion tactics so typical of LDS apologetics.

I remind you to simply R E A D the OP and see for yourself that the topic here is the LDS claim that Smtih translated the Book of Abraham correctly and in particular that he identified the canopic jars of Facsimile #1 correctly, i.e. as " Elkenah, Libnah, Mahmackrah and Korash".

I understand why you would want to avoid that topic and try to side-step it by challenging biblical Christianity instead. But that is not the subject here, nor will I allow you to change the subject.

Please either address the specific challenge I have issued in the OP or ...take your evasions somewhere else and get lost.

You have a choice. You will now either SHOW US some actual reasons to think that these Egyptian deities identified by your so-called "prophet" REALLY ARE "Elkenah, Libnah, Mahmackrah and Korash" or else you will once again try to avoid the topic.

I am betting you choose door number 2.

-BH

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[_BrianH]

You'll find that the evangelical variety of Christianity doesn't fare all that well here either. Some of our more vocal posters tend to think Mormons and Evangelicals are on about the same level.

Yes. The cult of Mormonism and the counter-cult of Evagelicalism are equally absurd. It would be hypocritical to focus on one while excluding the other from discussion.

Your opinions of Mormonism and/or "Evangelicalism" (whatever that means) are irrelevant. The topic of this discussion is not Mormonism nor "Evangelicalism". The topic of THIS thread is basic truthfulness of the LDS "scripture" known as "the Book of Abraham" and in particular the LDS claim that Joseph Smith's allegedly divine revelations contained in his "Book of Abraham" really do refelct an accurate translation of what is universally recognized as nothing but a common "Breathing Permit" from the Egyptian mythological religion.

The question you are avoiding is simply this: Are the four canopic jars depicted in this (and all other Breathing Permits, for that matter) REALLY "Elkenah, Libnah, Mahmackrah and Korash" as Smith said they are or not. If you say yes, please do more than just regurgitate your opinion, but please actually provide some EVIDENCE or valid reasoning to support that position.

OR ..if you say no, then you have confirmed that you recognize there is no good reason to conclude that Smith was correct and thus he was NOT divinely inspired as he claims and was therefore a LIAR, a PHONY and a FALSE prophet.

But in EITEHR case, your opinons of Mormonism or "Evangelicism" are irrelevant to the topic of this thread.

I request that you please refrain from additional attempts to change the subject.

thank you

-BH

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[_BrianH]

While Harmony probably was a little off-topic in regard to this subject, it was simply stated to inform you of a common distrust of Mormons and Evangelicals here by many at this site. Your questions should be raised in the MDD or MAD board. You might not be banned over there if you tread slowly and lightly.

Is there some reason that I should NOT raise this question in a forum explicitly named and supposedly dedicated to

"Mormon DISCUSSIONS" edited by harmony: do not use the color red. Red is reserved for mods only
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-BH

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[_Corpsegrinder]

Your opinions of Mormonism and/or "Evangelicalism" (whatever that means) are irrelevant.

Here, this should help you out in regards to what “Evangelicalism” means…

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evangelicalism

I would also point out that it’s both unrealistic and unfair for you to expect to maintain complete control over the direction of this or any other conversation in this forum. You are not the only participant, even if you happen to be the one who originated the thread.

The topic of THIS thread is basic truthfulness of the LDS "scripture" known as "the Book of Abraham" and in particular the LDS claim that Joseph Smith's allegedly divine revelations contained in his "Book of Abraham" really do refelct an accurate translation of what is universally recognized as nothing but a common "Breathing Permit" from the Egyptian mythological religion.

I’m a Mormon and I pretty much agree with everything you’ve posted about the Book of Abraham. Joseph Smith’s purported translations are a fraud, pure and simple. And, as a Mormon, I will repeat my assertion that the cult of Mormonism and the counter-cult of Evangelicalism are equally absurd.

Feel free to replace “the counter-cult of Evangelicalism” with “traditional Christianity,” “Biblical Literalism,” “Christian Orthodoxy,” or any other related absurdity.

[_BrianH]

Your opinions of Mormonism and/or "Evangelicalism" (whatever that means) are irrelevant.

Here, this should help you out in regards to what “Evangelicalism” means…

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evangelicalism

I would also point out that it’s both unrealistic and unfair for you to expect to maintain complete control over the direction of this or any other conversation in this forum. You are not the only participant, even if you happen to be the one who originated the thread.

My purpose is not to "maintain control" nor did I ever say or even imply that I am the only one alowed to participate here. My purpose is to try to get YOU (or Mormons) to simply demonstrate the cogency required to simply addres the topic. If you cannot address the actual topic, you are reduced to being disruptive and therefoer just plain rude. If that is your wish, go ahead ...be rude.

The topic of THIS thread is basic truthfulness of the LDS "scripture" known as "the Book of Abraham" and in particular the LDS claim that Joseph Smith's allegedly divine revelations contained in his "Book of Abraham" really do refelct an accurate translation of what is universally recognized as nothing but a common "Breathing Permit" from the Egyptian mythological religion.

I’m a Mormon and I pretty much agree with everything you’ve posted about the Book of Abraham. Joseph Smith’s purported translations are a fraud, pure and simple. And, as a Mormon, I will repeat my assertion that the cult of Mormonism and the counter-cult of Evangelicalism are equally absurd.

Feel free to replace “the counter-cult of Evangelicalism” with “traditional Christianity,” “Biblical Literalism,” “Christian Orthodoxy,” or any other related absurdity.

Please explain why you "think" that I should let you change the subject here?

-BH

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[_Wisdom Seeker]

While Harmony probably was a little off-topic in regard to this subject, it was simply stated to inform you of a common distrust of Mormons and Evangelicals here by many at this site. Your questions should be raised in the MDD or MAD board. You might not be banned over there if you tread slowly and lightly.

Is there some reason that I should NOT raise this question in a forum explicitly named and supposedly dedicated to

"Mormon DISCUSSIONS" edited by harmony: do not use red.
????

-BH

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Don't get your evangelical panties in a bunch!

[_Corpsegrinder]

My purpose is not to "maintain control" nor did I ever say or even imply that I am the only one alowed to participate here. My purpose is to try to get YOU (or Mormons) to simply demonstrate the cogency required to simply addres the topic.

That’s nice.

The topic of THIS thread is basic truthfulness of the LDS "scripture" known as "the Book of Abraham" and in particular the LDS claim that Joseph Smith's allegedly divine revelations contained in his "Book of Abraham" really do refelct an accurate translation of what is universally recognized as nothing but a common "Breathing Permit" from the Egyptian mythological religion.

Yes, I’ve addressed this topic and am in complete agreement with you--the Book of Abraham is as ridiculous as much of the Bible.

Many others in this forum have addressed this topic as well. Hint: use the search function. You’ll be amazed at the amount of attention the Book of Abraham continues to receive.

Please explain why you "think" that I should let you change the subject here?

You’re a funny guy, Brian. I like you.

[_Wisdom Seeker]

You’re a funny guy, Brian. I like you.

I sure hope he sticks around.

[_keithb]

You’re a funny guy, Brian. I like you.

I sure hope he sticks around.

+1

It's always funny to see the Evangelical types goaded here.

I agree with Corpsegrinder: the Book of Abraham is a ridiculous book, just like the Holy Bible.

What else did you want to know?