sock puppet wrote:Given the fact that there is no record of JSJr having succeeded in doing so, he must have had the mind-set of an apologist: but there is room for the slightest possibility he could find lost objects, right?
I love how anti's LIE in their every word and they think they are telling the truth. There are SEVERAL known examples of Joseph initially being successful.
And no, I'm not going to look it up for you, I've already been an idiot anti-mormon, and had to do MY OWN due diligence to know the actual truth of things instead of your anti-mormon lies. If you want to know the truth, you do your own work.
Young Mr.Antley's blog wrote:The method through which this was done was simple. The seer would usually place the stone in his or her hat in order to exclude the light, and while gazing into the stone at the bottom of the dark hat the seer was capable of seeing what they desired. Almost
See, this is where we depart Joe, even within a proper context and ascribing the best intentions to Joseph Smith, I can’t suspend my disbelief when faced with the fact that a Mormon must believe God reveled important ancient scripture to a dude with his face stuck in a hat.
Stak, trust me when I tell you that if Joseph Smith had lived in more modern times, and had relied on a Magic 8 Ball for answers to his questions before becoming a prophet, we would be hearing all about how God decided to use a Magic 8 Ball to communicate with Joseph Smith because that is what the latter was used to.
Young Mr.Antley's blog wrote:The method through which this was done was simple. The seer would usually place the stone in his or her hat in order to exclude the light, and while gazing into the stone at the bottom of the dark hat the seer was capable of seeing what they desired. Almost
See, this is where we depart Joe, even within a proper context and ascribing the best intentions to Joseph Smith, I can’t suspend my disbelief when faced with the fact that a Mormon must believe God reveled important ancient scripture to a dude with his face stuck in a hat.
Darth J wrote:Stak, trust me when I tell you that if Joseph Smith had lived in more modern times, and had relied on a Magic 8 Ball for answers to his questions before becoming a prophet, we would be hearing all about how God decided to use a Magic 8 Ball to communicate with Joseph Smith because that is what the latter was used to.
Well, if that is so and so many of us are used to communicating via reason, can we expect the Mormon god to start using reason and communicating with us? That would be refreshing, if possible.
sock puppet wrote:Well, if that is so and so many of us are used to communicating via reason, can we expect the Mormon god to start using reason and communicating with us? That would be refreshing, if possible.
Maybe God and the angels haven't yet developed the technology needed to communicate with us that way?
Oh for shame, how the mortals put the blame on us gods, for they say evils come from us, but it is they, rather, who by their own recklessness win sorrow beyond what is given... Zeus (1178 BC)
Darth J wrote:I know I have asked it before, but I still want to know why Joseph Smith didn't use the seer stone to find the lost 116 pages.
Because that's what Lucy Harris wanted him to do. He wasn't going to waste his time being tested by a woman. God will not be mocked.
"We have taken up arms in defense of our liberty, our property, our wives, and our children; we are determined to preserve them, or die." - Captain Moroni - 'Address to the Inhabitants of Canada' 1775
ldsfaqs wrote:And no, I'm not going to look it up for you, I've already been an idiot anti-mormon, ...
There's your problem right there. You weren't a smart anti-Mormon, you were a self-admitted idiot anti-Mormon. In other words, you sucked at being an anti-Mormon. No wonder you failed at it, LOL.
Mormonism ceased being a compelling topic for me when I finally came to terms with its transformation from a personality cult into a combination of a real estate company, a SuperPac, and Westboro Baptist Church. - Kishkumen
