Why does it matter if Joseph had relations with his wives

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Re: Why does it matter if Joseph had relations with his wive

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ldsfaqs wrote:Joseph only "hid" some of the marriages during the initial period in which Emma was still learning and trying to understand it. He did so out of respect for her feelings.


I'd hardly call the marriages of Partridge sisters (wives 20 and 21) to be the "initial period." Joseph Smith had been practicing plural marriage for almost two years by then.

You can claim nothing "sinister" by the hiding because various other people were involved in ALL the sealings, including family members, fathers, mothers, etc.


Yep, but they didn't tell Emma, did they?
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Re: Why does it matter if Joseph had relations with his wive

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ldsfaqs wrote:
It was lawful, because God DID authorize it..... And people are under no obligation to obey laws that are contrary to their religious beliefs and conscious. It's the age old tradition of American Civil Disobedience.

Further, the Church wasn't actually practicing Polygamy per-se, and especially officially, thus it was in compliance in essence with the law. Joseph and others only lived with ONE WIFE.


Apparently you've never read the 13 Articles of Faith
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ldsfaqs wrote:Your "average age" is significantly off..... Look it up. Most of the marriages were to those in their 20's and 30's, including a few much older.


Okay. So if I start sleeping around, it's okay if the occasional 14 year old slips in, as long as my average is above 18. Got it. That explains the sealings to older women.
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Re: Why does it matter if Joseph had relations with his wive

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Doesn't seem to be the case.

Does seem to be the case.


Not seen any evidence. Plus I think you're going to have date problems.....
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ldsfaqs wrote:Your "average age" is significantly off..... Look it up. Most of the marriages were to those in their 20's and 30's, including a few much older.


So we agree he wasn't a pedophile. Even when you agree with me, you attack. Odd.
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Re: Why does it matter if Joseph had relations with his wive

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ldsfaqs wrote:It was lawful, because God DID authorize it..... And people are under no obligation to obey laws that are contrary to their religious beliefs and conscious. It's the age old tradition of American Civil Disobedience.

Further, the Church wasn't actually practicing Polygamy per-se, and especially officially, thus it was in compliance in essence with the law. Joseph and others only lived with ONE WIFE.


You and I differ about the meaning of the word "lawful".

And God didn't authorize it. Ever.
(Nevo, Jan 23) And the Melchizedek Priesthood may not have been restored until the summer of 1830, several months after the organization of the Church.
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bcspace wrote:
Not seen any evidence. Plus I think you're going to have date problems.....


Another apologists who doesn't read his D&C. Tut, tut.
Parley P. Pratt wrote:We must lie to support brother Joseph, it is our duty to do so.

B.R. McConkie, © Intellectual Reserve wrote:There are those who say that revealed religion and organic evolution can be harmonized. This is both false and devilish.
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Re: Why does it matter if Joseph had relations with his wive

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Not seen any evidence. Plus I think you're going to have date problems.....

Another apologists who doesn't read his D&C. Tut, tut.


Another "critic" who makes unsubstantiated claims.
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Re: Why does it matter if Joseph had relations with his wive

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bcspace wrote:
Another apologists who doesn't read his D&C. Tut, tut.


Another "critic" who make unsubstantiated claims.


Another apologist who thinks everything prophets say comes from God.
(Nevo, Jan 23) And the Melchizedek Priesthood may not have been restored until the summer of 1830, several months after the organization of the Church.
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Re: Why does it matter if Joseph had relations with his wive

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Another apologist who thinks everything prophets say comes from God.


Where? Who?
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