The two greatest BLUNDERS of Bruce R. McConkie

[_Drifting]

Just because the Church gives it out doesn't mean it's doctrine as publication has been the standard. They used to give out A Marvelous Work and a Wonder and they still give out Miracle of Forgiveness. Like Mormon Doctrine, neither are doctrine nor have they ever been.

So, the Church officially gives publications out that don't reflect the doctrinal position of the Church...isn't that a tad anti-Mormon of them?

[_ludwigm]

... God did start the whole thing rolling with the Big Bang.

[_lulu]

Just because the Church gives it out doesn't mean it's doctrine as publication has been the standard.

Please define:

1. "just gives it out"

2. "publication"

[_lulu]

Just because the Church gives it out doesn't mean it's doctrine as publication has been the standard.

Please define:

1. "just gives it out"

2. "publication"

O, bcspace, where art thou?

[_bcspace]

Just because the Church gives it out doesn't mean it's doctrine as publication has been the standard.


Please define:

1. "just gives it out"

2. "publication"

You'll want to ask Brackite or refer to his post as to #1.

As to number #2 it means published by the Church.

[_lulu]

Just because the Church gives it out doesn't mean it's doctrine as publication has been the standard.


Please define:

1. "just gives it out"

2. "publication"

You'll want to ask Brackite or refer to his post as to #1.

As to number #2 it means published by the Church.

The Church published the Official Statement of First Presidency dated August 17, 1951 regarding the lack of pre-mortal valor of, and prohibition on ordaining, men with any African ancestry and it is, therefore:

Official Church Doctrine.

[_lulu]

As to number #2 it means published by the Church.

The Church published the Official Statement of First Presidency dated August 17, 1951 regarding the lack of pre-mortal valor of, and prohibition on ordaining, men with any African ancestry and it is, therefore:

Official Church Doctrine.

bcspace? I know you're out there.

[_Brackite]

The LDS Church gave out copies of the Book "Mormon Doctrine" to me and to every Missionary in the Mission field that I was serving in. It indeed was considered a doctrinal work back then.
The "Miracle of Forgiveness" Book is indeed still considered a doctrinal work by the LDS Church.
Please Check Out And See:

The Miracle of Forgiveness:
http://www.mrm.org/miracle-of-forgiveness

"The Miracle of Forgiveness" is official LDS doctrine:
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=20719&hilit=Miracle

[_lulu]

As to number #2 it means published by the Church.

The Church published the Official Statement of First Presidency dated August 17, 1951 regarding the lack of pre-mortal valor of, and prohibition on ordaining, men with any African ancestry and it is, therefore:

Official Church Doctrine.

bcspace? I know you're out there.

Where upon bcspace has officially conceded the direct contradiction between two (2) points of what he claims are

Official LDS Church Doctrine
(being published by the Church)

re African-American men and the LDS priesthood, to wit:

On August 17, 1951 the LDS church officially proclaimed in an official publication of that church, namely, an official letter from the then First Presidency of the Church:

“The position of the Church regarding the Negro may be understood when another doctrine of the Church is kept in mind, namely, that the conduct of spirits in the premortal existence has some determining effect upon the conditions and circumstances under which these spirits take on mortality”
The First Presidency”

and

On February 29, 2012 the LDS church officially published in an official publication of that church, namely, an official press release on its official website:

“It is not known precisely why . . . this restriction [on the ordination of African-American men] began . . .”

bcspace: “’published’ means ‘published by the church’”
bcspace: “publication has been the standard”
bcspace: “it's published by the Church which is the standard for doctrine.”
bcspace: “’proclaimed in official Church publications.’”

And don't forget, bcspace, we've always been at war with Eastasia.