Conscientious Alternative to Mormonism
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Conscientious Alternative to Mormonism
I've read posts by a lot of people who scoff at the idea that anyone in their right mind would take seriously the claims of the LDS Church. If the LDS Church really is so bad, then what is the conscientious alternative to it? If believing God lives and that God has chosen Monson as His spokesman to the world is really such a bad idea, then what should people with a conscience do instead?
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Re: Conscientious Alternative to Mormonism
KevinSim wrote:I've read posts by a lot of people who scoff at the idea that anyone in their right mind would take seriously the claims of the LDS Church. If the LDS Church really is so bad, then what is the conscientious alternative to it? If believing God lives and that God has chosen Monson as His spokesman to the world is really such a bad idea, then what should people with a conscience do instead?
How about simply living life?
How about doing good simply because you want to do so? Rather than hoping some fictitious being loves you more for doing good?
Life is a one time roller coaster ride. Stop looking down and dwelling on what the end of the ride will be like and what the exit experience will entail.
Lift up your head, feel the warm sun on your face, the cool wind in your hair.
Enjoy it, you only get one time.
For your reference, I am a former Mormon, devoted to spreading the LDS gospel truth.
I am an apathetic atheist. I just don't care if there is a god or not.
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Simply try to do right because it's the right thing to do. No belief in a silly myth of a Savior, the nonsense of a Second Coming or any of the rest of it is required.
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Maximize each day.
Love, laugh, live free.
Be excellent to those around you.
Maximize each day.
Love, laugh, live free.
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Some of us, on the other hand, actually prefer a religion that includes some type of correlation with reality.
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Some of us, on the other hand, actually prefer a religion that includes some type of correlation with reality.
~Bill Hamblin
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Re: Conscientious Alternative to Mormonism
KevinSim wrote:I've read posts by a lot of people who scoff at the idea that anyone in their right mind would take seriously the claims of the LDS Church. If the LDS Church really is so bad, then what is the conscientious alternative to it? If believing God lives and that God has chosen Monson as His spokesman to the world is really such a bad idea, then what should people with a conscience do instead?
The same thing that the 99.9% of mankind have done, who don't consider Monson or Mormonism at all. The Church isn't bad, in my opinion, it is irrelevant.
"Any over-ritualized religion since the dawn of time can make its priests say yes, we know, it is rotten, and hard luck, but just do as we say, keep at the ritual, stick it out, give us your money and you'll end up with the angels in heaven for evermore."
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Re: Conscientious Alternative to Mormonism
KevinSim wrote:I've read posts by a lot of people who scoff at the idea that anyone in their right mind would take seriously the claims of the LDS Church. If the LDS Church really is so bad, then what is the conscientious alternative to it? If believing God lives and that God has chosen Monson as His spokesman to the world is really such a bad idea, then what should people with a conscience do instead?
Are you asking, if the LDS Church isn't the one, true church, then which one is? It's a question TBMs ask often and it doesn't lead to enlightenment about religion; it only reveals their limited mindset.
Sorry, but there isn't any one, true church. If you truly have a conscience, you can trust it as a guide in this life.
The person who is certain and who claims divine warrant for his certainty belongs now to the infancy of our species. Christopher Hitchens
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KevinSim wrote:If believing God lives and that God has chosen Monson as His spokesman to the world is really such a bad idea, then what should people with a conscience do instead?
A robust and thoughtful atheism, buttressed with an understanding in history, philosophy, the social and natural sciences.
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1. Relax.
2. Try not to be an asshole.
On these two hang all the . . .
2. Try not to be an asshole.
On these two hang all the . . .
"And the human knew the source of life, the woman of him, and she conceived and bore Cain, and said, 'I have procreated a man with Yahweh.'" Gen. 4:1, interior quote translated by D. Bokovoy.
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Don't steal, don't kill, don't lie, don't hate. Created correctly by man, falsely attributed to a God.
Whatever appears to be against the Book of Mormon is going to be overturned at some time in the future. So we can be pretty open minded.-charity 3/7/07
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I think a conscientious alternative, for example, would be to give 10% of your increase to help feed and cloth people in need, rather than to the Mall Builders that inhabit the COB.