Science Silliness

[_Buffalo]

Scientists control who gets grants?

Scientists with money. Not all scientists are poor. And often scientists are on grant advisory boards.

JMS

Can you give us some examples?

[_DarkHelmet]

No better than the lame excuse, "We don't know what it is, so we'll call it "Dark Matter"".

JMS

What's wrong with giving a name to the matter that they can't see or measure? It would only be lame if they claimed the matter was dark because it was cursed by God. Then, after understanding more about dark matter, saying they don't know why they taught that. But then they would be stepping into the realm of religion.

[_Drifting]

No better than the lame excuse, "We don't know what it is, so we'll call it "Dark Matter"".

JMS

What's wrong with giving a name to the matter that they can't see or measure? It would only be lame if they claimed the matter was dark because it was cursed by God. Then, after understanding more about dark matter, saying they don't know why they taught that. But then they would be stepping into the realm of religion.

Isn't this called "hoisting someone with their own petard"...?

[_jskains]

Can you give us some examples?

No thanks. Not going to waste the time. I am done when it quickly degrades to stupidity like this "squeak/squeek" crap. Course ironic when someone calls someone a name and can't even spell it right.

*eyeroll*

JMS

[_Buffalo]

Can you give us some examples?

No thanks. Not going to waste the time. I am done when it quickly degrades to stupidity like this "squeak/squeek" crap. Course ironic when someone calls someone a name and can't even spell it right.

*eyeroll*

JMS

So you were just making that bit up about how grants are distributed?

[_mikwut]

JSkains' sweeping condemnation of science and unsatisfactory understanding of much of what he is saying is certainly inappropriate and worthy of criticism. He does validly point out though the deceit of some like Lawrence Krauss who attempt to win a rhetorical battle over the word 'nothing'. Krauss' science is good but philosophy and language is bad. A good review of his book can be read here:

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/21/scien ... thing.html

mikwut

[_jskains]

So you were just making that bit up about how grants are distributed?

If it makes you feel better to think that, go right ahead.

JMS

[_Bond James Bond]

Scientists with money. Not all scientists are poor. And often scientists are on grant advisory boards.

JMS

Can you give us some examples?

Or perhaps jskains can explain why there shouldn't be scientists on boards granting money to...scientists.

[_Buffalo]

So you were just making that bit up about how grants are distributed?

If it makes you feel better to think that, go right ahead.

JMS

It's the only reasonable conclusion given your refusal to back up your claim.

[_jskains]

It's the only reasonable conclusion given your refusal to back up your claim.

Sure. Certainly no one just gets sick of namecalling and insults flooding a thread. No sir, that isn't reasonable.

JMS