harmony wrote:God does not hide. God does not need money. God needs honest people, not just men, who want to do his work, not their work. The list of things that God does not need is long and varied, and includes limos, maids, cooks, and a paycheck. God does not need rock star status, malls built with his tithes, and social networking. God does not need prophets who don't prophesy, seers who refuse to see, and revelators who reveal nothing.
Harmony, how do you know what God needs and what God doesn't need?
by the way my Grandpa is awesome. He doesn't really believe in the church the same way. He believes all churches are the same but he just does Mormonism for the family. He drinks coffee and goes to the temple. One of the least judgemental guys I know and he is one of the smartest guys I know.
harmony wrote:God does not hide. God does not need money. God needs honest people, not just men, who want to do his work, not their work. The list of things that God does not need is long and varied, and includes limos, maids, cooks, and a paycheck. God does not need rock star status, malls built with his tithes, and social networking. God does not need prophets who don't prophesy, seers who refuse to see, and revelators who reveal nothing.
Harmony, how do you know what God needs and what God doesn't need?
Kevin, I studied and pondered the building of the City Creek Mall. I then, earnestly prayed to God that I had reached a decision to withhold tithing payments because I believed the First Presidency was spending funds in a manner not consistent with how Christ would want them spent. God told me, via the Holy Ghost that I was making the correct decision for the correct reasons.
“We look to not only the spiritual but also the temporal, and we believe that a person who is impoverished temporally cannot blossom spiritually.” Keith McMullin - Counsellor in Presiding Bishopric
"One, two, three...let's go shopping!" Thomas S Monson - Prophet, Seer, Revelator
Drifting wrote:Kevin, I studied and pondered the building of the City Creek Mall. I then, earnestly prayed to God that I had reached a decision to withhold tithing payments because I believed the First Presidency was spending funds in a manner not consistent with how Christ would want them spent. God told me, via the Holy Ghost that I was making the correct decision for the correct reasons.
Well done! As I have always said, teach them correct principles, and let them govern themselves.
"Petition wasn’t meant to start a witch hunt as I’ve said 6000 times." ~ Hanna Seariac, LDS apologist
Drifting wrote:Kevin, I studied and pondered the building of the City Creek Mall. I then, earnestly prayed to God that I had reached a decision to withhold tithing payments because I believed the First Presidency was spending funds in a manner not consistent with how Christ would want them spent. God told me, via the Holy Ghost that I was making the correct decision for the correct reasons.
KevinSim wrote:Themis, in the article you're referring to I quoted Analytics as saying, "all reputible ones do." The context showed that the "ones" were churches and the "do" was disclose their finances. If all churches disclose their finances then clearly a church has to disclose its finances in order to be reputible. So if Analytics thinks that all reputible churches disclose their finances, then doesn't it logically follow that he thinks a church has to disclose its finances in order to be reputible?
You are suggesting that they have to while he is suggesting they will do so freely because they have nothing to hide and so none would keep them secret. The difference may be small but I think it is there.
Drifting wrote:Kevin, I studied and pondered the building of the City Creek Mall. I then, earnestly prayed to God that I had reached a decision to withhold tithing payments because I believed the First Presidency was spending funds in a manner not consistent with how Christ would want them spent. God told me, via the Holy Ghost that I was making the correct decision for the correct reasons.
Drifting, do you believe there is a God?
Did you not read my post that you quoted?
“We look to not only the spiritual but also the temporal, and we believe that a person who is impoverished temporally cannot blossom spiritually.” Keith McMullin - Counsellor in Presiding Bishopric
"One, two, three...let's go shopping!" Thomas S Monson - Prophet, Seer, Revelator
harmony wrote:God does not hide. God does not need money. God needs honest people, not just men, who want to do his work, not their work. The list of things that God does not need is long and varied, and includes limos, maids, cooks, and a paycheck. God does not need rock star status, malls built with his tithes, and social networking. God does not need prophets who don't prophesy, seers who refuse to see, and revelators who reveal nothing.
Harmony, how do you know what God needs and what God doesn't need?
Drifting wrote:Kevin, I studied and pondered the building of the City Creek Mall. I then, earnestly prayed to God that I had reached a decision to withhold tithing payments because I believed the First Presidency was spending funds in a manner not consistent with how Christ would want them spent. God told me, via the Holy Ghost that I was making the correct decision for the correct reasons.
Despite the splendid argumentation of KevinSim et al. there is little to no reason to withhold financial statements within the Mormon faith unless something non faith promoting were occurring.
I think it is a wash, what is not faith promoting about the great and spacious city creek mall adorning the temple with modern day money changing?