Buffalo wrote: Is there anything an attractive young woman could wear that would prevent you from leering at her? I think not.
This is the question I want answered. As a father, I don't want my daughter to dress like a stripper. I think we can all agree on that. But as a man, I recognize a beautiful woman, regardless of what she is wearing. A 22 year old boy's sex drive will kick in when the smoking hot girl begins talking to him, even if she is covered from neck to ankle in non-form fitting material. Guys will leer at girls no matter what they are wearing. This OP is about how misinformed the LDS leadership is about interactions between men and women, and their belief that girls can prevent boys from having impure thoughts. When you think a summer dress or a tight turtleneck will force men to have impure thoughts, but a church approved dress will not, you don't understand the male sex drive. The bottom line is, if a 22 year old boy is physically attracted to a girl, he WILL have impure thoughts about her regardless of what she is wearing.
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"We have taken up arms in defense of our liberty, our property, our wives, and our children; we are determined to preserve them, or die." - Captain Moroni - 'Address to the Inhabitants of Canada' 1775
just me wrote:BCSpace, I have a challenge for you. Please find me a talk (doesn't have to be doctrinal) that is geared towards MALES ONLY that discusses specific body parts they need to cover up and that if they cause a female to think *those thoughts* that it is essentially his fault. No, talks about grooming and baggy/sloppy clothes do not count. I want one that is the male version of this talk. It needs to speak to body parts that lead women to have lustful/vulgar thoughts and speech. It needs to tell men that it is their responsibility to keep the thoughts of these women pure.
I'd love to see it.
What I don't understand is why a bare shoulder is "immodest." Strapless gowns have been worn for decades, and I can't imagine too many people get all that aroused by a bare shoulder.
whoever came up with that had a shoulder fetish.
"We have taken up arms in defense of our liberty, our property, our wives, and our children; we are determined to preserve them, or die." - Captain Moroni - 'Address to the Inhabitants of Canada' 1775
DarkHelmet wrote:whoever came up with that had a shoulder fetish.
i wish everyone here would stop talking about such filthy topics.
Only someone with a shoulder fetish would think it's a filthy topic.
"We have taken up arms in defense of our liberty, our property, our wives, and our children; we are determined to preserve them, or die." - Captain Moroni - 'Address to the Inhabitants of Canada' 1775
Runtu wrote:What I don't understand is why a bare shoulder is "immodest."
Probably because you couldn't wear garments that way. Seriously. I think that's the LDS definition of immodest.
Strapless gowns have been worn for decades, and I can't imagine too many people get all that aroused by a bare shoulder.
Perhaps not, but I confess that bare shoulders can be attractive even if not particularly arousing. Of course the same holds for well-kept hair or a pretty face but I haven't heard any talks encouraging LDS women to wear burkas.
That's General Leo. He could be my friend if he weren't my enemy. eritis sicut dii I support NCMO
Runtu wrote: What I don't understand is why a bare shoulder is "immodest." Strapless gowns have been worn for decades, and I can't imagine too many people get all that aroused by a bare shoulder.
If only the church had been restored in the 16th century!
Parley P. Pratt wrote:We must lie to support brother Joseph, it is our duty to do so.
DarkHelmet wrote:The bottom line is, if a 22 year old boy is physically attracted to a girl, he WILL have impure thoughts about her regardless of what she is wearing.
True that. Every man who still remembers what it's like to have a libido (ie everyone but the SLC Octogenarians Club) knows this is true.
Parley P. Pratt wrote:We must lie to support brother Joseph, it is our duty to do so.
Runtu wrote: What I don't understand is why a bare shoulder is "immodest." Strapless gowns have been worn for decades, and I can't imagine too many people get all that aroused by a bare shoulder.
If only the church had been restored in the 16th century!
Jane Grey was a fox, shoulders or not. Too bad she lost her head If I recall correctly.
"A man is accepted into a church for what he believes and he is turned out for what he knows." - Samuel Clemens
The name of the "king" in Facsimile No. 3 of the Book of Abraham is Isis. Yes...that is her name.
DarkHelmet wrote:The bottom line is, if a 22 year old boy is physically attracted to a girl, he WILL have impure thoughts about her regardless of what she is wearing.
True that. Every man who still remembers what it's like to have a libido (ie everyone but the Salt Lake City Octogenarians Club) knows this is true.
