I want to save social security?

[_Analytics]

You have to pay into the Social Security system for 10 years before you are eligible for benefits, by the way.

So how is disability funded for people who are disabled from childhood? I know the parents collect a disability check for a child who is declared disabled, even if the child is not legally old enough to work anyway. Of course when the child turns 18, he is eligible to collect that check directly without having it pass into his parents hands first.

You are misinformed about the situation of your acquantance; people who are disabled from childhood don't get Social Security disability payments.

[_ajax18]

Also, you never addressed my getting back my social security payments.

Is the money you paid into social security sitting in a bank account somewhere or has it already been spent on something else? If it's gone, how do you propose to get the funds to get all of your money back? Do you think I'll get all my money back?

Think of it this way. What would happen if I were disabled and couldn't work?

I just don't understand how people can be in favor of giving out money that people did not put into the system, yet still believe that they should get all of their money back.

[_Tarski]

Also, you never addressed my getting back my social security payments.

Is the money you paid into social security sitting in a bank account somewhere or has it already been spent on something else? If it's gone, how do you propose to get the funds to get all of your money back? Do you think I'll get all my money back?

Think of it this way. What would happen if I were disabled and couldn't work?

I just don't understand how people can be in favor of giving out money that people did not put into the system, yet still believe that they should get all of their money back.

I am in favor of getting what the program promised me.

Suppose I buy flood insurance. Then when there is a flood, the company tells me they can't pay because there is no money. They ask me sarcastically if I think the money is sitting in the bank somewhere.

I don't care, make good on your end of the bargain!

In the case of the government, let them buy fewer billion dollar fighter jets or something or collect more taxes from those who have millions of times more than they need.
History shows that governments that can't keep promises lose reputation and then power. It's as simple as that. Those commitments have to be continuous over changes of party power etc. It isn't any party that made the promises, but rather the US government. We implicitly agreed by electing policy makers. It was all transparent.
Follow through as promised!

[_Quasimodo]

Great choice of avatar, ajax18! How much do you know about him?

PS. Why are you spending time on the board today instead of working for our entitlement checks?

[_ajax18]

Great choice of avatar, ajax18! How much do you know about him?

PS. Why are you spending time on the board today instead of working for our entitlement checks?

I'm trying Quasi, I'm trying. Maybe you can be the other Confederate general in our reenactment of 1862. He said, "Tom is crazier than a March hare." I found it an funny quote for a man so revered in the Confederacy.

[_ajax18]

I am in favor of getting what the program promised me.

We'll see how that works out for you. I don't like your chances much more than I like my own. I think you'll end up wishing you could have cut your losses.

In the case of the government, let them buy fewer billion dollar fighter jets.

Would you be ok with just using one airplane and an atom bomb to save money?

or collect more taxes from those who have millions of times more than they need.

Even if they did that, do you think there would be enough to pay for it. I'm not convinced there would be enough even if you taxed them 100%. Generally very wealthy people are very good at getting out of paying taxes. They pay tax attorneys instead. The more social security you dole out, the more immigrants we'll get, the more people we'll get on disability... You can't pay for everything and not have that result in debt.

History shows that governments that can't keep promises lose reputation and then power. It's as simple as that. Those commitments have to be continuous over changes of party power etc. It isn't any party that made the promises, but rather the US government. We implicitly agreed by electing policy makers. It was all transparent.
Follow through as promised!

I agree with you. But regardless of who gets elected, I can't see it happening. If your generation doesn't get the shaft, mine will. I think it will come down to people having to first get approved for disability to get social security, unless you live to be 70. They'll just keep raising the retirment age. The chances of people becoming disabled are a lot higher than the chances of people dying. That's what happens in socialist programs.

[_Quasimodo]

I'm trying Quasi, I'm trying. Maybe you can be the other Confederate general in our reenactment of 1862. He said, "Tom is crazier than a March hare." I found it an funny quote for a man so revered in the Confederacy.

I'm delighted you're trying, ajax! There is no doubt that Jackson was a great general (Lee thought it was a heavy loss when he died). He was a little wacky in everything else, though.

[_Analytics]

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Even if they did that, do you think there would be enough to pay for it. I'm not convinced there would be enough even if you taxed them 100%. Generally very wealthy people are very good at getting out of paying taxes. They pay tax attorneys instead. The more social security you dole out, the more immigrants we'll get, the more people we'll get on disability... You can't pay for everything and not have that result in debt.

In terms of keeping the Social Security system stable, there are two big problems: people choosing to have fewer kids and people living longer. A major solution to dealing with that is going to entail significantly increasing the immigration rate. Over the next few decades, the country will be forced to open the floodgates to people who have some skills and want to work. Immigration is a solution to the big problems.

[_ajax18]

Immigration is a solution to the big problems.

If that were the solution, it should have been fixing itself by now.

[_Analytics]

Immigration is a solution to the big problems.

If that were the solution, it should have been fixing itself by now.

If immigration was the solution the the forthcoming labor shortage, it should have been fixing itself by now? Why do you think that?