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Re: Shades, its time to restore the thread

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liz3564 wrote:True. However, I think that as a website owner myself, my constructive criticism of the situation is fair game.


That's fair comment.
Have you ever been faced by one of your posters threatening (to the point where you believed the threat to be real) to litigate against you personally because of your forum?
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Re: Shades, its time to restore the thread

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RockSlider wrote:
Jersey Girl would not hurt a fly, you know it as well as anyone here that really knows Jersey Girl. She was never a legal threat to you personally or the board. I call B.S. and see it as a personal bias issue ... but what ever.

I would also like to note that Stem got beat up big time about posting his in real life information and got no such relief from you or any of the mods as he was being brutally attacked with it and asking for some help/compassion. But whatever, once again your bias is showing.


Jersey Girl might not have hurt a fly, but I have PMs that contradict what you are saying and support what Shades is saying. I forwarded those PMs to Shades upon his request.

I won't post those PMs here, but I support JGs ban.

H.
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Re: Shades, its time to restore the thread

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RayAgostini wrote:She's no threat at all, Shades. Never was, and never will be. Those who know her best, know that, and two of your moderators here are close friends of hers. They never felt threatened. Do you seriously think she had the time, money, or even will, to pursue this full on into a court? In the past year, she has suffered enough with a death in the family, and the ensuing turmoil and heartbreak that accompanied it. She even blogged about it here. You've misread her motives, and even what she said, which implied no direct threat to you, your family, or your livelihood.

Do you think she'd take any joy in seeing you or your family threatened? All she wanted was to have Evenson removed from the board, because of his "history", and because she felt personally threatened by him, on account of the way he acted in regard to her and a few others in wanting to identify them in real life. And he is a known stalker and predator who was exposed by the Tanners over 20 years ago.

You seriously need to rethink this, and get a better perspective.



"Is there no help for Hoboken's daughter?"

Maybe Jersey Girl can be the martyr that all you New Order Mo's are looking for, your own personal Joseph falling from the window, like a lamb to the slaughter.

Hell, you could start a church - you've got your revisionist history down pat, afterall.

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Re: Shades, its time to restore the thread

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Sometimes, you really are an ass. :rolleyes:



LDSToronto wrote:
RayAgostini wrote:She's no threat at all, Shades. Never was, and never will be. Those who know her best, know that, and two of your moderators here are close friends of hers. They never felt threatened. Do you seriously think she had the time, money, or even will, to pursue this full on into a court? In the past year, she has suffered enough with a death in the family, and the ensuing turmoil and heartbreak that accompanied it. She even blogged about it here. You've misread her motives, and even what she said, which implied no direct threat to you, your family, or your livelihood.

Do you think she'd take any joy in seeing you or your family threatened? All she wanted was to have Evenson removed from the board, because of his "history", and because she felt personally threatened by him, on account of the way he acted in regard to her and a few others in wanting to identify them in real life. And he is a known stalker and predator who was exposed by the Tanners over 20 years ago.

You seriously need to rethink this, and get a better perspective.



"Is there no help for Hoboken's daughter?"

Maybe Jersey Girl can be the martyr that all you New Order Mo's are looking for, your own personal Joseph falling from the window, like a lamb to the slaughter.

Hell, you could start a church - you've got your revisionist history down pat, afterall.

H.
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Re: Shades, its time to restore the thread

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liz3564 wrote:Sometimes, you really are an ass. :rolleyes:


Classless piece of crap, Liz. Get it right.

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Re: Shades, its time to restore the thread

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Now, are we all completely clear on this issue? Can we finally say we understand how Jersey Girl's legal threat was in a class altogether by itself?


No, we cannot.
Reading your explanation is infuriating. You've banned Jersey Girl and yet you still insist on publishing your defensive, twisted rationalizations so I am speaking up. Rockslider, Ray and I have to speak up because she cannot.

In this situation, you are once again AS BAD as the mods at MADB because you talk about people(Jersey Girl) who can't defend themselves. You've BANNED her and she is powerless to challenge your version of events.
When mods at MADB did that to banned posters, you created this board so they'd have a way to speak out. I know, I was around back then and I remember. I even applauded your actions. But now you and your ilk do the same thing to Jersey Girl. And any of you who've attacked MADB for this kind of garbage but applaud Shades for it are as Hypocritical as he is.

If you had any sense of decency you would either stop talking about her and what YOU claim she did and stop making excuses for why you took the action you did, OR you would let her post here and defend herself against YOUR ACCUSATIONS!!
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Alter Idem wrote:If you had any sense of decency you would either stop talking about her and what YOU claim she did and stop making excuses for why you took the action you did, OR you would let her post here and defend herself against YOUR ACCUSATIONS!!


Others continue to speak up for Jersey Girl and criticize Shades for his decision. How is it unreasonable for Shades to respond to their criticism? If no one was brining it up, he probably wouldn't say anything.
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Re: Shades, its time to restore the thread

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LDSToronto wrote: I support JGs ban.

H.


I agree with you and disagree with Liz on this one. Jersey Girl crossed a line. There are lines in every dessert and there is always a death penalty. She earned it through her actions. So, she's dead now.

Shades did the right thing. I don't blame him at all. Her actions were simply unforgivable on a message board. Act that way and you get the boot. That's life in the big city, and Jersey Girl knows all about that. Bless her heart.

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Re: Shades, its time to restore the thread

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Stormy Waters wrote:
Alter Idem wrote:If you had any sense of decency you would either stop talking about her and what YOU claim she did and stop making excuses for why you took the action you did, OR you would let her post here and defend herself against YOUR ACCUSATIONS!!


Others continue to speak up for Jersey Girl and criticize Shades for his decision. How is it unreasonable for Shades to respond to their criticism? If no one was brining it up, he probably wouldn't say anything.


It's not unreasonable for him to want to respond to their criticism, but when he does so by stating his version of events, which Jersey Girl denies vehemently, and she is not able to respond, that's wrong. Just like it was wrong when the Mods at MADB allowed posters to give their versions of events involving Kevin Graham, KA, Ms Jack, etc. to stand unchallenged because those posters had been banned and could not speak up. It's hypocritical and it's wrong.

If he wants to do the right and fair thing, he can either suffer in silence when criticized or he can let her back on the board so she can defend herself. Frankly, I don't care which he does. If he's really so afraid of her, then he ought to suffer in silence,at least having the satisfaction that he 'protected' his board and posters from the wrath of the 'Jersey Devil'. While those of us who know Jersey Girl know this whole thing was a debacle, at least his cheerleaders will feel safe.
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Re: Shades, its time to restore the thread

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Alter Idem wrote:
Now, are we all completely clear on this issue? Can we finally say we understand how Jersey Girl's legal threat was in a class altogether by itself?


No, we cannot.
Reading your explanation is infuriating. You've banned Jersey Girl and yet you still insist on publishing your defensive, twisted rationalizations so I am speaking up. Rockslider, Ray and I have to speak up because she cannot.

In this situation, you are once again AS BAD as the mods at MADB because you talk about people(Jersey Girl) who can't defend themselves. You've BANNED her and she is powerless to challenge your version of events.
When mods at MADB did that to banned posters, you created this board so they'd have a way to speak out. I know, I was around back then and I remember. I even applauded your actions. But now you and your ilk do the same thing to Jersey Girl. And any of you who've attacked MADB for this kind of garbage but applaud Shades for it are as Hypocritical as he is.

If you had any sense of decency you would either stop talking about her and what YOU claim she did and stop making excuses for why you took the action you did, OR you would let her post here and defend herself against YOUR ACCUSATIONS!!


You are cracked in the head. Go back to sleep. Shades is just as bad as the MODS on the other board?! What the hell.

Hey Shades, ban Alter Idem right now. At the least, kick Alter Idem out of this thread.

Paul O
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