Future Temple At Adam-ondi-Ahman

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_Valentinus
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Re: Future Temple At Adam-ondi-Ahman

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Uncle Dale wrote:
Madison54 wrote:
So....do you think most members don't even know about this future temple site?

How many members do you think even know about the "future grand council where Jesus Christ will meet with His stewards of all dispensations and receive back the keys of the kingdom in preparation for His Second Coming"? Is this still discussed at all?

I almost find it odd that the church still has this information on their temple website.



My guess is that the Brighamites pretty much abandoned the original cause and reason for
the Adam-ondi-Ahman Temple, the Far West Temple and the Jackson County Temple, when
the relocated to Utah.

Over the years the LDS concept of "the literal gathering of Israel" has deteriorated greatly
from what it was in 1830-1839. No longer do the Mormons think in terms of having all the
Tribes of Israel gather around two great temples, one in Jerusalem and one in "Zion."

For the Mormons, "Zion" is no longer Jackson County -- and Daviess County and Caldwell
County are no longer the skirts of the tent of Zion.

Ask an uneducated Mormon today, where "Zion" is, and he will most likely say "Utah."

Oh, Zion, dear Zion,
Home of the free,
Soon thy towers will shine
With a splendor divine,
And eternal thy glories shall be

Oh well...

UD


I suppose the church has given up on the teaching. Then again, it would be poor for me to assume anything.

by the way, its nice to see you posting UD. I miss having your insight over on the other board.
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Re: Future Temple At Adam-ondi-Ahman

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Uncle Dale wrote:
Nomomo wrote:
Uh, Tob.... These are the "Latter Days" right? Shouldn't we be getting pretty close down to the wire by now? It's been the Latter Days for quite some time now, shouldn't we be getting ready? ~_-


If Elder W. M. Romney is indeed the "One Mighty and Strong" then we are living in
the LAST DAYS, and a war that begins in South Carolina will soon spread to the
Valley of Megiddo, and the Jerusalem Temple will be re-built.

I presume that President Romney will attend its dedication and that Halliburton
will get the construction contract.

As for the three un-built LDS temples in Missouri -- perhaps they were merely parts
of Joe Smith's con job that have long since been abandoned and forgotten.

UD


Oh how you humor me. Thank you.
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Re: Future Temple At Adam-ondi-Ahman

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Tobin wrote:It's been the latter-days for over 2,000 years. The saints during Christ's era thought
the millenium was right around the corner too.


And the first President Smith warned everybody to flee the wrath that was to come,
and to gather to the safety of the city of refuge in Jackson County Missouri.

By the end of 1834 he seemed to have evolved past those "right around the corner"
apocalyptic thoughts and never paid much attention to the "redemption of Zion" thereafter.

UD
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Re: Future Temple At Adam-ondi-Ahman

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Hey, why work and spend money to acquire land and build a temple that would herald the beginning of a 1000-year long utopia when we can build a luxury mall? I need my Tiffanys dammit!!

P.S., those little blue boxes are quite lovely.
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Re: Future Temple At Adam-ondi-Ahman

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Uncle Dale wrote:
Tobin wrote:It's been the latter-days for over 2,000 years. The saints during Christ's era thought
the millenium was right around the corner too.


And the first President Smith warned everybody to flee the wrath that was to come,
and to gather to the safety of the city of refuge in Jackson County Missouri.

By the end of 1834 he seemed to have evolved past those "right around the corner"
apocalyptic thoughts and never paid much attention to the "redemption of Zion" thereafter.

UD


The last Brighamite prophet (to use your term) to hold to millenialist views was Wilford Woodruff. He firmly believed it was right around the corner almost right up until issuing the Manifesto in 1890. It was at that point that he finally accepted that it wasn't going to happen anytime soon, and that he needed to act or the church would be destroyed.
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Re: Future Temple At Adam-ondi-Ahman

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Cicero wrote:...
Wilford Woodruff.
...



I suppose that the late 19th century Mormons were a bit torn between the idea
that the Second Coming might happen while they were still building the Salt Lake Temple,
and their traditions concerning the need to build a millennial temple in Missouri.

Somewhere in my readings of past LDS pronouncements, I recall seeing the opinion
given, that Enoch's city might descend upon Salt Lake City. But that idea never got
any real traction. God cannot rule the earth from Utah -- so God's perfect reign is
endlessly pushed into a distant, hazy future.

So, I think that the Mormon leaders, after about 1900, chose to forget their previous
teachings, concerning the need to gather to Jackson County and there build a temple
ready to receive Christ at the Second Coming.

The old teachings remain in the history books, however -- and I suppose that modern
Mormon historians like Bushman, just tell themselves "Joseph Smith was wrong."

They must tell themselves that conclusion in a very faint whisper, however -- because
the One True Church of today cannot tolerate such a conclusion to be voiced at any
modern Fast and Testimony meeting.

A "sleeping dog" doctrine that will awaken and bite their backsides, sooner or later.

UD
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