Mormon Apologetics & Misogyny: The Case of William Schryver

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Re: Mormon Apologetics & Misogyny: The Case of William Schry

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Kishkumen wrote:
TAO wrote:In any case, I would be very careful not to mind-read too much into Will's posts; they seem separate enough from his real life.


Is that generosity granted to all, or just Will?


Nah, just my general impression about him, via his posts. You know, how you sort of develop a model of how people act. I think Will might act different in real life than online.

But I suppose I am also being a bit charitable.
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TAO wrote:I'm not quite so sure. Again, it really depends on what is inside the paper.


Inside what paper?
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TAO wrote:Nah, just my general impression about him, via his posts. You know, how you sort of develop a model of how people act. I think Will might act different in real life than online.

But I suppose I am also being a bit charitable.


In MsJack's thread Will said more than once that he's exactly like that in real life.
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TAO wrote:You don't do things like this to stop publishment of things.


Best.Portmanteau.Ever.
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Fence Sitter wrote:TAO,

Good to see you post here again though given the backlash for doing so at MD&D you may want to limit it here lest you be accused of consorting with anti-Mormons where it seems that being nice to those with whom you disagree is equivalent to supporting them.


Haha, thanks. I've had others tell me the same. Although... I'm not really worried about it. I'm not supporting anti-mormons by posting here. If anything... it's the opposite.

And nah, I'd disagree; while the mods aren't perfect, I don't think they aren't quite as strict as you think they are.

Count me also as one who would love to see Will published, though he seems to be his own worst enemy when it comes to that.


Cools.

As far as mind reading goes, since I do not know either you or Will in real life, I can only judge by what I read online.


Yeah, but, at least in my experiences, you can also see a shadow of what they do in real life too. Actually... there's a good example in social hall, for Will. He likes taking photography. You don't usually hear things like that though, in apologetic threads. And the tone of the threads is different; from this, you can sort of see that he behaves differently in real life than online. Now obviously, you can't read too much into it, but you can sort of see the difference, if you know what I mean.

Should I not evaluate you based on what I see in your posts also?


Definitely.

Frankly I don't understand this reasoning that says "hey cut this guy/girl a break- in real life he is really a nice person".


That isn't the reason, actually... I don't know how nice Will is or isn't in real life. But to call Will an attention freak in real life (which was what the person was doing), seems out of character with the tone of his Social Hall threads, which relate to photography, and I correlate with in real life. And so I said I believed it was better to withhold judgement on the issue.

For me bad or good behavior is a reflection of the person period. I don't really care where it takes place.


It is. but I've also had scenarios where people are very reflective of their environment. While I was growing up, I met many people, who were very good people when socializing with me individually, but not so good of people when socializing in groups. Because the internet and real life environments are a bit different, people are likely to behave differently in real life than on the internet.

Of course, that's up to your judgement, indeed it is.

Thanks though!
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Bob Loblaw wrote:
TAO wrote:Yeah, that's about right. And I'd be very disappointed if they were related. You don't do things like this to stop publishment of things.


Why would anyone care if Schyrver published his stuff?


Because they don't like what he says, I'm guessing.
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TAO wrote:Because they don't like what he says, I'm guessing.


If he hasn't published no one knows what he is saying. I would like him to publish just so he'll stop playing the mistreated victim.
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Kishkumen wrote:
TAO wrote:I'm not quite so sure. Again, it really depends on what is inside the paper.


Inside what paper?


Inside the scroll or Hor paper, I believe.
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Bob Loblaw wrote:In MsJack's thread Will said more than once that he's exactly like that in real life.


Could I have a reference please? Thanks.
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Re: Mormon Apologetics & Misogyny: The Case of William Schry

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Bob Loblaw wrote:
TAO wrote:Because they don't like what he says, I'm guessing.


If he hasn't published no one knows what he is saying. I would like him to publish just so he'll stop playing the mistreated victim.


Either way, he should publish.
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