$500.00 cash to the first person who meets the challenge

The catch-all forum for general topics and debates. Minimal moderation. Rated PG to PG-13.
Post Reply
_just me
_Emeritus
Posts: 9070
Joined: Mon Mar 22, 2010 9:46 pm

Re: $500.00 cash to the first person who meets the challenge

Post by _just me »

Bret Ripley wrote:
The1Guy wrote:I maintain that there is no such thing as Non-fiction.
Lordamercy, I hope you don't do your own taxes.


What the... :lol:
~Those who benefit from the status quo always attribute inequities to the choices of the underdog.~Ann Crittenden
~The Goddess is not separate from the world-She is the world and all things in it.~
_The1Guy
_Emeritus
Posts: 70
Joined: Thu Jul 26, 2012 6:01 pm

Re: $500.00 cash to the first person who meets the challenge

Post by _The1Guy »

Bret Ripley wrote:
The1Guy wrote:I maintain that there is no such thing as Non-fiction.
Lordamercy, I hope you don't do your own taxes.


You are trying to blur legal documents with categories of writing. Anything authored by the government (specifically Congress/President/Judiciary) has the weight of law behind it and is, therefore, different than a book written by an individual. The tax code as a written document changes constantly and is often inconsistent (like a work of fiction) but no one would call it that because it's the law and is therefore absolute (until some tax lawyers get a hold of it). You have to ask yourself who is the author and who is the reader. The reader reads and reacts to what is written and has to have a certain amount of trust and faith in the author. But, yes, there is an element of fiction in virtually everything that is written, esp. if it has any complexities to it. See if you can find the fiction in what I have just written.
_Bret Ripley
_Emeritus
Posts: 1542
Joined: Thu Dec 16, 2010 3:53 am

Re: $500.00 cash to the first person who meets the challenge

Post by _Bret Ripley »

The1Guy wrote:...an element of fiction (the whole story is absent)...
Awesome: a definition of fiction that is a fiction.
_The1Guy
_Emeritus
Posts: 70
Joined: Thu Jul 26, 2012 6:01 pm

Re: $500.00 cash to the first person who meets the challenge

Post by _The1Guy »

Bret Ripley wrote:
The1Guy wrote:...an element of fiction (the whole story is absent)...
Awesome: a definition of fiction that is a fiction.



Thank you. You have just set the stage for my next point about fiction. The reader comes to the table with his/her own set of truths and biases based on his/her experiences and beliefs and anything coming from the writer that conflicts with them will likely be viewed as pure fiction or outright lies. The more conservative and narrow-minded the reader is the more likely he/she will label the conflicting content with pejorative terms or simply not read it, judging the content from its cover. So, the label, "Fiction" or "Non-fiction," is as much in the eye of the beholder as coming from the pen of the author.
_Bret Ripley
_Emeritus
Posts: 1542
Joined: Thu Dec 16, 2010 3:53 am

Re: $500.00 cash to the first person who meets the challenge

Post by _Bret Ripley »

The1Guy wrote:Thank you. You have just set the stage for my next point about fiction. The reader comes to the table with his/her own set of truths and biases based on his/her experiences and beliefs and anything coming from the writer that conflicts with them will likely be viewed as pure fiction or outright lies. The more conservative and narrow-minded the reader is the more likely he/she will label the conflicting content with pejorative terms or simply not read it, judging the content from its cover. So, the label, "Fiction" or "Non-fiction," is as much in the eye of the beholder as coming from the pen of the author.
For some reason, when I read this post I heard the voice of this guy:
Image
_Dr. Shades
_Emeritus
Posts: 14117
Joined: Mon Oct 23, 2006 9:07 pm

Re: $500.00 cash to the first person who meets the challenge

Post by _Dr. Shades »

The1Guy wrote:So, the label, "Fiction" or "Non-fiction," is as much in the eye of the beholder as coming from the pen of the author.

In what category would you classify "The Wizard of Oz?"
"Finally, for your rather strange idea that miracles are somehow linked to the amount of gay sexual gratification that is taking place would require that primitive Christianity was launched by gay sex, would it not?"

--Louis Midgley
_Bret Ripley
_Emeritus
Posts: 1542
Joined: Thu Dec 16, 2010 3:53 am

Re: $500.00 cash to the first person who meets the challenge

Post by _Bret Ripley »

Dr. Shades wrote:
The1Guy wrote:So, the label, "Fiction" or "Non-fiction," is as much in the eye of the beholder as coming from the pen of the author.

In what category would you classify "The Wizard of Oz?"
Same question for James McPherson's "Battle Cry of Freedom: The Civil War Era".
_moksha
_Emeritus
Posts: 22508
Joined: Fri Oct 27, 2006 8:42 pm

Re: $500.00 cash to the first person who meets the challenge

Post by _moksha »

Any chance a recommendation for a second anointing might be included along with that $500 reward?
Cry Heaven and let loose the Penguins of Peace
_Bret Ripley
_Emeritus
Posts: 1542
Joined: Thu Dec 16, 2010 3:53 am

Re: $500.00 cash to the first person who meets the challenge

Post by _Bret Ripley »

moksha wrote:Any chance a recommendation for a second anointing might be included along with that $500 reward?
1) Everything is fiction.
2) In answer to your question: yes.
_Blixa
_Emeritus
Posts: 8381
Joined: Fri Mar 23, 2007 12:45 pm

Re: $500.00 cash to the first person who meets the challenge

Post by _Blixa »

Bret Ripley wrote:
moksha wrote:Any chance a recommendation for a second anointing might be included along with that $500 reward?
1) Everything is fiction.
2) In answer to your question: yes.


This exchange will be featured in my Introduction to Literature course this semester.

Bret Ripley--A+

That1Guy? ... ...

........ want to take a W?
From the Ernest L. Wilkinson Diaries: "ELW dreams he's spattered w/ grease. Hundreds steal his greasy pants."
Post Reply