Jerusalem: to be recognized as the capitol of Israel

[_Philo Sofee]

Good morning Philo!

Exactly as Christians want it so they can pretend the Bible prophecies have reality. They WANT the world to destroy itself so their imaginary God can come and save them.

You weren't under the influence of any drugs/alcohol when you wrote this, where you?

It's the only rational explanation I can come up with for authoring such an absurd thing.
Unless you don't actually know very many Christians?


Peace,
Ceeboo

Yes, the drug and drink of truth and reality, a drug many Christians refuse to partake in.

[_Chap]

Exactly as a relatively small but disproportionately politically influential number of Christians want it so they can pretend the Bible prophecies have reality. They WANT the world to destroy itself so their imaginary God can come and save them. And the rest of us have LET them get that power. SHAME on us for letting them continue having that power. Get Christianity OUT of our government and eliminate its influences.

Fixed it for you.

Yup, there are crazy people like that, and (worse) people who don't feel good about calling them out because 'those people have a right to their beliefs'.

Response: they can believe what they like, but why let them force the rest of us into bearing the consequences of their personal crazy stuff?

[_Some Schmo]

Response: they can believe what they like, but why let them force the rest of us into bearing the consequences of their personal crazy stuff?

Exactly.

The big cultural myth in this country is that "we need to respect other people's beliefs." BS. We need to respect the idea that we can believe what we want, but the moment someone says something that is patently stupid based on their beliefs, we should all be moved to say, well that's ridiculous. And worse, when someone comes along and wants to enact public policy based on the lunacy of their faith-based assertions, again, we need to tell them to “F” off. That deserves the exact opposite of respect.

I would be fine would god belief if people would just keep that crap to themselves.

[_Ceeboo]

Exactly as a relatively small but disproportionately politically influential number of Christians want it so they can pretend the Bible prophecies have reality. They WANT the world to destroy itself so their imaginary God can come and save them. And the rest of us have LET them get that power. SHAME on us for letting them continue having that power. Get Christianity OUT of our government and eliminate its influences.

Fixed it for you.

Much much much better!



Peace,
Ceeboo

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[_canpakes]

I simply mean that borders are imaginary in the sense that we humans make them up. God didn't draw some line and say anybody with a specific DNA has a "birth right" to a particular patch of earth.

You probably don't have to convince anyone on this board of that detail, but others take their Bibles a bit more literally.

Genesis 15:18: "In the same day the LORD made a covenant with Abram, saying, Unto thy seed have I given this land, from the river of Egypt unto the great river, the river Euphrates, etc. and so forth..."

[_Res Ipsa]

I wouldn't over-complicate it. I simply mean that borders are imaginary in the sense that we humans make them up. God didn't draw some line and say anybody with a specific DNA has a "birth right" to a particular patch of earth. It is owned by whoever owns it... which is defined by their ability to physically assert ownership.

So, maybe more like arbitrary than imaginary?

You pepper me with these questions which are rather beside the point. Most of those are easy targets to armchair quarterback given that they made what in hindsight were obviously poor tactical decisions. The merits of their various causes are however all relative and subjective. If I were Israel today, I'd leave the middle east. Working with my friends in the USA, not to mention ~1/5 of my citizens who have American passports, I'd petition to relocate to say North Dakota or some such wasteland that is not currently being used. And then I would literally just move.

I asked you for some explanation precisely because i wanted to understand the point of this thing you said:

If Israel were smart, they'd drive the Palestinians out... far past the borders of the Jordan river and conquer Jordan, Syria, and Lebanon.

Frankly, it's so obvious that what you proposed was so obviously one of the worst things Israel could do, I assumed I was missing something and asked for clarification. Did the statement represent any thinking at all on your part, or was it just crap that Water Dog says?

Instead of offering any explanation at all, you skipped off to Israel moving to North Dakota. How, exactly, would that work. How many immigrants are we talking here? Does Israel get to be it's own country, or do they all become Americans. What about the folks already living in North Dakota?

If you don't want to be asked about the stupid crap you post, don't post it.

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[_Res Ipsa]

Which historical examples lead you to conclude it would be a smart thing to do?

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